I tried to stay away from videos showing the more extreme examples of either side, this is just a small sample of voices. There are others out there.
This first video speaks straight to my heart. It is a grandfather’s advice for his granddaughters.
This was just a small snippet, but I think it speaks to something deeper, the depth of animosity we are seeing today. And, yet, even here there is still some connection, humor.
I wanted to look at why some people have changed their minds about the Republican Party, which these next two videos portray.
Trump supporters who might be your relatives or friends. Their concerns are genuine.
It is unfortunate that so many people do not really do their own research. It is unfortunate that people do not always understand causation of problems and what it really takes to solve them. It is unfortunate that people do not always understand how economics works. It can lead to misjudgment.
I am considering voting early, as I don’t want to miss this election.
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I spent too long a stretch down at the Dept of Motor Vehicles getting my ID updated. (Gotta vote. I got to see a fair sample of the local menagerie that make up a solidly 'Red' Trumpkan/Republican state. (And I was truly amazed at the high percentage of teenagers who can't seem to stand in line or in front of a blue background to have their picture taken without at least one, sometimes both, of their parents filling in the available space around them. Sometimes both parents and a few extras I couldn't identify. But, I digress…)
You identified several 'unfortunate' things in row there.
I'd add one even greater misfortune to your list.
Used to be there were only three major broadcast sources (upped to four with launch of FoxNews). And then there were the newspapers and the periodicals. They all had one thing in common--they had Editors!
It costs money to run a business. Even if that business is merely a printing press. It costs money to pay the broadcasters' electric bills. There were costs involved and that meant investors, and that meant demands for accountability from those investors for how their money was spent.
Nowadays any crazie-ass fanatic can start up a youTube channel, or a vlog (basically the same thing) with no investment. And outrage sells--they'll get clicks. More outrage, more clicks. They start making money. And still no editors to enforce standards of reliability or accountability. (Or they start a website--auto programming to design such sites are cheap these days, to maybe even free.) Same thing--outrage draws clicks. More outrage, more clicks--more money. Crazy-ass fanaticism finds its own audience. And it feeds on more crazy.
And the political intelligence of the American body politic spirals downward.
And I don't have a clue for a cure.
"Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes.
Keep that in mind…"
R.A. Heinlein ― The Notebooks of Lazarus Long
Back in 1980, forty plus years ago, Ronald Reagan ran for President and won promoting an economic theory that he'd, more or less, made up his very own self. Various others have tried to claim credit for it, but they had pieces of it. It was Reagan who put the whole tale together. He called it 'supply-side' economics. (Others called it a less lofty 'trickle-down' economic theory.)
By either name, it was a macro-economic theory dreamed up by a "B" movie actor who'd double-majored in Economics and Sociology in a small-town college and then never used either degree, moving promptly into radio broadcasting upon graduation.
Many years later, he ran for President promising that tax cuts for the rich would stimulate the economy and the benefits would 'trickle down' to the average working stiffs who keep the nation together. In fact, perhaps counter-intuitively, tax cuts for the rich would supposedly result in increased tax revenues for the government.
It took about twenty years for the last die-hard right-winger politicians to face up to that fact that it's all bullshit. The theory doesn't work. It never worked. It's never gonna work.
They've given it many and varied opportunities to work and just don't work!
However, Reagan won reëlection insisting it would work, and politicians noticed his success--he crashed the economy but got reëlected anyway. For most politicians, getting reëlected is the measure of success, not how ya did it. And so they kept the theory as part of the standard Republican platform. They knew it was bullshit--we all know that now. But they kept selling it because it kept getting them elected. It was a success in their view.
Meantime: The average Republican voter began to slowly notice that the average Republican politician was blatantly lying to him/her 'bout how that economic theory had proved out. They kept saying it would work, and it kept not working, and it's never gonna work.
That brings us to today.
The Trumpkan/Republicans have acclimated to a world where their politicians lie like dogs. But they can't accept that they are in cahoots with the villains in this story.
"Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes.
Keep that in mind…"
So, they force themselves to believe that the Democrats are even worse. They will believe, or pretend to believe, whatever further bullshit their right-winger leaders dream up for them to hide the lies told so far, and to damn the Democrats was "worse" than they are.
And these days that includes making alliance with the American fascist movement.
typo correction
"…and to damn the Democrats as "worse" than they are."
Couldn't expect the Vikings to win forever.
The Lions are good this year. At least they got beat by a good team.
The Chiefs on the other hand are now 6 - 0. The only undefeated team in the NFL. I watched them play New Orleans a couple weeks ago. It was fun to watch a game where I wasn't invested in either team. Also, I was curious to see Travis Kelce play.
The Trumpkan/Republicans have acclimated to a world where their politicians lie like dogs. But they can't accept that they are in cahoots with the villains in this story.
And Trump is Liar in Chief. He is obsessed with Kamala Harris' McDonald's work record. He tells people she is lying about working there and makes some kind of show of going to a McDonald's and working the fryer and passing out food at the window. Walz called it right, just weird.
I ran across numerous clips of Trump supporters basically facing proof of the lies put out by Trump and Vance, yet still they support them. You are right, they just can't face reality. They are delusional at best.
Nowadays any crazie-ass fanatic can start up a youTube channel, or a vlog (basically the same thing) with no investment. And outrage sells--they'll get clicks...Crazy-ass fanaticism finds its own audience. And it feeds on more crazy.
And the political intelligence of the American body politic spirals downward.
And I don't have a clue for a cure.
They say knowledge is power. Maybe the only way to fight is to push back with truth. The truth being that most of those blogs are, as you say, only out there to make money. There are also those, perhaps more dangerous ones, which are out there to push an agenda. One that may not be in the best interests of the United States.
Found this and quite a few like it from other states in another comments section:
My ultra-conservative rural neighborhood in the prior Bobert district has only one Trump flag flying this year for many miles in any direction, as compared to 4 years ago when there were hundreds. Hmmmmmm.... Ranchers and farmers are finally figuring it out: Don't vote against your own self interest!!
I wonder, could the polls be wrong? Is there hope that this election is not as close as they seem to think?
I have been observing the political signs in my town too. There are no national signs, but I do notice the one sign that has the most yard space belongs to a Democrat. So, is it possible that those people will vote all Blue too?
"I wonder, could the polls be wrong?"
Polling is expensive, and the traditional mainstream media has taken a break these last several days from expending money on polling. That leaves the 'aggregators' (Nate Silver, FiveThirtyEight, RealClearPolitics, etc.) relying on more clearly partisan polling. And even those sources have been cutting back on polls this last week.
I'd say the "polls" are stale. They're giving us the direction of the race a week/ten days ago.
I expect there'll be rush of new polls come out closer to November 5th--probably start hitting the headlines in about a week. We'll know more then.
Recent condemnations by John Kelly, General Milley, and others in Trump's first administration for his bent towards fascism and his admiration of Adolph Hitler haven't seemed to have any effect on the dedicated Trumpkins.
Not surprised. This is how dictatorships form. By support from the population.
I voted.
I found one! A Harris/Walz sign and it's on my block.
Huh! Some Republican claimed that a religious community was unoccupied and someone voted using that address and committed voter fraud. Really riled up the nuns who actually do live there and are registered voters.
Catholic nuns were (are) probably voting for Trump.
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Just lately come to light that both Trump and Elon Musk, Trump's anticipated head of the yet-to-be-created "government efficiency bureau", have been keeping up routine and surreptitious contacts with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"Enemy within" indeed.
And there's no sense of surprise or outrage--just more of what is Trump and what is calmly accepted by the Trumpkan/Republican party.
Changing directions…
Israel has finally mounted their retaliatory strike against Iran, retaliation for the Iranian attack on Israel early this month. People been dreading it for almost a month now. And it was surprisingly low-key.
The Israeli even waited until U.S. Sec. of State, Antony Blinken, had left Israel (recent visit). Then they hit almost exclusively military targets in Iran, notably avoiding both oil facilities and nuclear sites.
Biden's long (and fairly below-the-radar) push against Israeli escalation of the conflict seems to have borne fruit here. Even the Iranians are talking hysterically just yet.
The Iranians are saying the strikes caused limited damage, so maybe there is hope that this will fade away a bit. If so, that would be a win for Biden diplomacy. Not that the American people will notice. Sad to say. They are too focused on loud mouths like Trump to take notice of sublety.
I once said that I had neither the time nor the inclination to feel sorry for Joe Biden. Beating Trump back was all I was interested in, and Biden's fate was not a relevant consideration.
But, I was wrong. I do feel bad for him.
But he brought it on himself. Not the infirmities of age―that was built into him at birth. (He tended to his physical well being better than most men.) Rather, Biden gave Trump an opening for his come-back by not taking the mess at the border more seriously. Without that I don't think Trump would have been able to win back the Republican 'base' and the nomination.
Still, history may be kinder to Biden than PeteS has been. (That may yet depend on whether Harris can pull off a win in November--turning back Trump is still the primary goal.)
I've noticed a lot of concern in Europe and the Far East over North Korea's deployment of troops to eastern Russia, near'bouts the war zone with Ukraine.
I must admit I don't get the semi-apocalyptic tone with which they address this escalation.
Yeah, Russia is flagrantly violating the United Nations' various resolutions and sanctions providing for the isolation/quarantine of North Korea. So what? They've been violating those resolutions and sanctions at will for a long time. Just weren't so flagrant about it as now.
What real difference does it make that they've finally ceased to deny their actions and are now acting openly?
There also seems to be some irritation among Russian troops about the deployment of North Korean soldiers to Ukraine. This may not work out quite as Putin was hoping. I know it won't work out well for the North Korean cannon...er...soldiers.
Trump took time to deny that he was a Nazi at his rally in Atlanta Georgia.
Said it right out. "I an not a Nazi."
May be harbinger of late season trouble for Trump. (I'm recalling the 2010 campaign of Christine O'Donnell in which she was obliged to deny same. Doesn't look good for the politician to have to be denying such things.) We can always hope.
Bad editing there ↑↑ O'Donnell was denying be a witch.
He may say he isn't a Nazi, but his and his supporters behavior say something else.
Madison Square Garden looked and sounded like something out of 1930's Germany.
I don't know who set fire to those ballot boxes out west, but that looks like something out of 1930's Germany as well.
Locally the population seems somewhat schizophrenic about early voting. A heavily Trumpkan/Republican area, we're not real committed to off-day voting, whether absentee or just early. There are, to my knowledge, only two early voting locations in the entire county. They have not previously seen much use.
As I was in the neighborhood of one of them I decided to drop by and vote early. There was a line out the door, and around the building, and down the sidewalk.
I decided to vote later, maybe on election day.
I have heard that Republicans have had second thoughts on not voting early. Or those are closet Harris voters. We could only hope,
There was an actual case of someone voting for a dead person here in Minnesota. It happened in northern Minnesota. A woman voted mail in ballots for both herself and her mother, who had died in August. This was in my paper today, so I presume it to be true. At this time both ballots have been invalidated, but it is likely she will be able to recast her own vote, as long as she is eligible.
The person they voted for? Trump.
I am currently reading "Prequel" by Rachel Maddow. It is a history of American fascism leading up to WWII. Very interesting and scary read. I didn't know much about Huey Long. I had heard about him, but was short on details. I certainly wasn't aware that Hitler and his followers studied American race laws to come up with some of their own laws against the Jews.
It's amazing how similar Trump and his followers are to these early fascists. Trump himself sounds very much like Long in mentality.
"I certainly wasn't aware that Hitler and his followers studied
American race laws to come up with some of their own laws
against the Jews."
The Trumpkan/Republican efforts to whitewash American history are not unprecedented.
In addition to Huey Long there was Father Dan Coughlin, and aviator Charles Lindberg, and a host of lesser lights that the book would do well to mention.
Or was it Father Charles Coughlin? One of the two I think.
It is Charles and the book will go into him. He had a huge audience. It seems to be starting with George Sylvester Viereck, Philip Johnson, Dennis Lawrence and Huey Long. Lindberg isn't mentioned in its cast of characters. But I think I had heard about his sympathies.
It sounds like Iran or one of its proxies is going to respond to Israel's strike.
One significant difference between today and the time of Huey Long, et al. The United States had just suffered the Great Depression when Huey Long and Father Coughlin rose to prominence. There was reason for the citizens to question the viability of the American model of government. The system had, after all, broken down.
Today's rise of fascism is occurring on a history of success. We won the Cold War-- decisively. We led the world in our recovery from the effects of the Covid pandemic. We were doing fine, but the Republicans turned to fascism anyway.
This is a significant difference.
There is still a certain amount of social upheaval now with the uncertainty of the effects of climate change, despite those who deny it, as well as the lingering effects of the pandemic. The advent of social media has allowed the better spread of disinformation by those who would try to manipulate the American people. Put that together with one man's thirst for power to satisfy his ego, and remain out of prison, and the extreme far right s agenda to remake America in their image and you have a perfect storm of threats to American freedom and democracy. To them fascism looks like a good playbook.
"The advent of social media has allowed the better spread of
disinformation…"
Bluntly put, the crazies now have a cheap way to find and reinforce each other without being forced to account to reality. They have been liberated from the constraints of logic and truth.
It's a whole new media world of the imagination, and the crazies have unlimited supplies of that.
I noticed that President Zelenskyy is lobbying hard for permission to use western weapons (especially American weapons) against the ~8,000 or more North Korean troops currently taking up positions in and around the Russian Kursk region (currently host to Ukrainian troops).
The Koreans have a history going back to the 1950s Korean War of using 'human wave' attacks that leave massive numbers of Koreans dead on the field. So, we can probably figure how Putin intends to use his new Oriental cannon fodder.
I'm all in favor of helping the Ukrainians hit 'em while they're still gathering in the rear areas, before the Russians can bring 'em to the front for 'human wave' attacks on Ukrainian positions.
The Biden administration is being reluctant to approve such use of American weapons. I can't see the logic of that position.
But, soon 'nuff it'll be somebody else's call. We can only hope the Ukrainians can hold out a little longer.
Lynnette: "There was an actual case of someone voting for a dead person here in Minnesota... A woman voted mail in ballots for both herself and her mother, who had died in August... The person they voted for? Trump."
Took me a while to parse that. I thought you were breaking the news that Trump was dead. Hopefully it's true politically. I'm looking forward to never hearing of him again after January 20th, 2025.
I believe Harris is going to swing it ... just. Polls tended to show her lead narrowing since the initial strong showing after her candidature was announced. I put some of that down to her interview performances. As much as Trump needed to (but couldn't) rein his mouth in from his more outlandish utterances, Harris needed a bit less of the word salad and a bit more on actual policy. She let herself be hamstrung by refusing to comment negatively on any of the current administration's performance. If she had acknowledged that they screwed up big time on the border and were determined to fix it, I think she'd have had more traction. On the other hand, she had the balls to enter the lion's den with Fox News.
I don't know how much of an effect the last week of a campaign has on undecideds. But it feels like Harris finished the week with more vigor while Trump floundered. To be honest, I still feel it could go either way. May the worst candidate lose. Ukraine is the only reason I have a horse in this race. I don't think either candidate has the ability to address my second-biggest America-related fear -- the disastrous debt situation.
The only way to address any of the serious issues facing us is to have true compromise and deal making in Washington. And, despite he's thoughts to the contrary, Trump does not deal well with either.
No, Trump is still alive.
Hello to Lynnette, Lee C., and Pete.
I'm currently living in Chisinau, Moldova. We just had a election here, with the pro-EU candidate winning in a run-off election.
Here's my guess on the US presidential election: Trump-Vance in a landslide. Obviously, I could be wrong. It's just a guess.
Joe Biden? Sharp as a tack, right? Doesn't seem so.
Kamala Harris? Sharp as a tack, right? Sorry, but she's a nitwit.
Jeffrey -- Chisinau, Moldova
Ukraine will loom large in this election. Even many Trump supporters support Ukraine. They will have a difficult choice to make.
Hello Jeffrey,
Wasn't there some question about Russian interference in Moldova's recent election?
While I would never go so far as to predict an election my informal yard sign poll tells a different story in Minnesota. While there aren't signs in every yard those that have them seem to lean Democratic. Of course it is Minnesota and we tend to lean that way. So I am hoping that at least my state will be on the right side of history.
Lynnette,
Yes, I'm sure there was some attempted Russian interference. But it's a very complicated history here in Moldova. People here speak both Russian and Moldovan (Romanian) and their allegiances are divided. And just a few miles away, of course, is Transinistria, where there are Russian troops stationed.
I can't remember when I last stopped by here, but this last summer I lived in Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine. I learned a lot talking to people there. Most of the time we would get three hours of electricity on and three off. And I believe it's going to get worse this winter.
Another issue is corruption within the Ukrainian military. Also, Zelensky is not as popular as he is portrayed by the media. If Trump wins the election, let's hope he helps bring about an end to the war. Ukraine will have to accept losing parts of the east. I don't think they can avoid that.
In downtown Ivano-Frankivsk, the city center is filled with large placards with photos of the many men who have fallen, each placard with flowers beneath them and wives and children visiting to refresh the flowers.
I could tell you a lot more, but let's pray for an end to the war.
I know you and Lee are Never Trumpers, but I just think that, with Harris, many more Ukrainians will die due to her dithering (and with the Cheneys guiding her).
The Ukrainians are very patriotic, of course, very courageous, but they're simply running out of men to fight.
One of my friends from here, Peter, is right now back on the eastern front, working as a translator for NGOs bringing food to he villages in the east affected.
The two counties where I grew up in Iowa, Delaware and Dubuque, are pretty much evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans, so I guess I'm evenly divided, too.
Jeffrey -- Chisinau, Moldova
"…but let's pray for an end to the war."
You seem to be in a rush to lock in Russia's current gains against Ukraine.
Perhaps you'd like to dissolve NATO next? (Bit of an aspirational goal I admit, but perhaps you so aspire?)
Jeffrey,
Appeasement has never worked in the past and it won't work now. But it should be up to the Ukrainians how they move forward in their own country, not Donald Trump or even Joe Biden. If they want to fight they should be given the tools to do so.
You are correct, I would never vote for Donald Trump. I believe that he is not now and never has been fit to be president. This goes beyond policy differences. He has shown that he truly does not believe in democracy. His behavior towards those who oppose him or disagree with him is more in line with Vladmir Putin then George Washington.
Beyond his authoritarian tendencies is his simple incompetence to run a government. He talks about choosing someone like RFK, Jr. to run our health care system. This is beyond incompetent, it endangers all Americans. They have been talking about banning vaccines, which has already happened in Idaho with the Covid 19 vaccine. His tariffs will only be passed on to the American consumer. Protectionism like that can lead to trade wars which are damaging to everyone. His rhetoric is dark, divisive and pure and simple BS. He is a grifter, selling everything from bibles to watches to raise money for himself. He is only looking out for himself and not the American people.
The American people deserve better then Donald Trump.
Not going to correct any typos in that comment.
I just wanted to add with regard to corruption in Ukraine that this is systemic in Russia. To get rid of corruption you have to get rid of the system that created it. The Ukrainians are trying.
Each state gets one (1) vote.
Currently the Trumpkan/Republican Party controls more state delegations than do the Democrats, but a new Congress is to be sworn in on Jan 3rd. Maybe the balance will shift (probably not)
Then we better hope for good news from the election.
It is looking like America will fail. Very depressing.
"Depressing" describes it fairly well.
Jeffrey, I vaguely remember you mentioning an Iowan upbringing though I remember you more as a New York liberal. You do get to the strangest of places -- weren't you in Asia? ... and now western Ukraine and Moldova?
I know the war affects all parts of Ukraine, but I gather it's still very different in the west where you were compared to anywhere near the front lines in Donbass, or the cities of Kharkiv or Kherson. It's understandable that people are tired of the war, and that Zelenskyy is not flavour of the month everywhere. He is, after all, the one who's been signing mobilisation bills and also his "victory plan" may have been somewhat ill conceived.
However, none of the Ukrainian people I've been following (which is quite a few) are in favour of a simple capitulation to Putin. It would send quite a message to the world if the latter gets to keep territories it took by force (not to mention war crimes). Russia doesn't even control all the territories it claims to have annexed. Most Ukrainians seem to understand that any agreement that ceded anything to Russia would simply be a holding manoeuvre to allow their enemy to regroup and try again in a few years. Meanwhile life would be brutal for Ukrainians in occupied parts.
As much as Ukraine is running out of soldiers, so is Russia. Even as the military sign-up bonuses soar, less people seem to be interested in them. The government's ability to pay them is also coming under strain. The tragedy of this war is that it will eventually destroy both countries demographically. Sure, there is corruption everywhere, but Ukraine deserves that fate far less than Russia. The only person with the ability to end this war in 24 hours is Putin, and he won't do it for reasons of self-preservation.
I think there's a clear cut case for the west to up its support for Ukraine, for reasons of morality as well as self-interest. Personally, I would (and did) think very long and hard before donating to a military cause ... but some of the money I've donated has gone to FPV drones and I'm ok with that. I find Trump and Vance's comments on the war are both depressing and naive. "Peace at any cost" will definitely not bring justice, but it won't even bring peace. That's why Trump's gotta lose.
... and speaking of "Trump's gotta lose" ... it ain't happenin'. 7am here (2am EST) and North Carolina and Georgia have both gone to Trump. Looks like Pennsylvania is just being called for him too. Looking pretty grim for Harris in other swing states. Wisconsin looks to be leaning red.
From where I'm looking it's all over, and not even close. Trump will win the popular vote. Harris has captured significantly less of the Hispanic and Black votes compared to Biden in 2020. Harris HQ is looking like a repeat of Clinton's doomed celebration party in 2016 -- the main person is no longer planning to turn up and apart from a few stragglers supporters have gone home. It's also looking like the Republicans will flip the Senate. I need to go to bed, but I'm expecting by the time I get up later today a new political era will have dawned on America. God help Ukraine.
I belong to neither the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party. I haven't voted in years, but when I did vote, I voted for whoever I thought was a better candidate no matter to which party they belonged. So I have no skin in the game, as they say.
But I have one piece of advice for the current Democratic Party. You went two election cycles without real primaries -- and primaries are mainly used to vet the candidates. And thus you got a brain-dead Biden and a nitwit in Harris. You might want to consider having legitimate primaries again.
On top of that, thinking that trotting out bi-coastal elite entertainers every campaign stop would win an election is beyond stupid. The Democratic Party has no connection to the American working class anymore.
If the Democratic Party wants to be competitive in the future, they'll need to tear it down completely. Ditch the celebrities and their PC concerns and actually talk to everyday Americans again.
Barack Obama visited Iowa many times. Kamala Harris? Not once. Just like she never visited the southern border when tasked with that portfolio.
Jeffrey -- Chisinau, Moldova
PeteS,
I left the US back in 2013 and have only been back for a few visits. Since then, I've lived in multiple countries on four continents, so my suitcase is a bit banged up.
For most of that time, I was teaching, the longest stint being five years in China -- Zhejiang Province, west of Shanghai. I then retired and for the last three years I've been hopping from country to country in Eastern Europe.
By living in Eastern Europe and learning its history, you realize that the current border dispute between Russia and Ukraine is completely normal for the region. Borders and mass movements of people are unremarkable. Just ask all the Poles who used to live in Lviv,, Ukraine.
About the current border dispute between Ukraine and Russia, I don't have any answers, of course. I'm just a few miles from Ukraine, so I hope a nuke isn't lobbed in my direction.
At the end of the month, I'll be heading to Athens. For the last three years, I've been wintering in Athens, which has really nice weather at that time of the year. I always stay at the same cheap hotel. In the basement of that hotel, my used bike is waiting. There's something great about riding the subway into Athens and then jumping on that bike for a spin around the neighborhood.
If you have any plans to be in Athens from December through March, drop a message here.
Jeffrey -- Chisinau, Moldova
"Just like she never visited the southern border when tasked with that portfolio."
Harris first visited the southern border as a member of the Biden administration in late June of 2021. WashingtonPost
Harris was never 'tasked' with a portfolio that included border security. The Trumpkan/Republicans just made that up, and kept telling the 'til they drummed it into folks like Jeffrey, who "believe what they're told" as Trump once put it. ("People will just believe you. You just tell them and they believe you."--Trump to Billy Bush in 2005 on occassion of the infamous "Access Hollywood" tape.)
Side Note: Harris was given a mission to the South American capitals of El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala in an effortto promote investment and job growth in those "Northern Triangle" countries, but that's a thousand miles or more from the southern border.
Harris' problem is that we have too many voters like Jeffrey, who believe bullshit just 'cause they want to believe it, and are unshakable from their attachment to their steady bullshit diet. And we now have an internet to provide it to them in steady stream. And she has not perfected a method to pierce their self-imposed willful ignorance. (Nor has anybody else that I've noticed.)
couple of editing errors up there I'm gonna let stand. I think I got the points across.
Sheriff Lee C., I know it's been a tough night for you, so I'll just tip my hat to you and ask Kordo to pour a shot for you and put it on my tab.
Jeffrey -- Chisinau, Moldova
Okay, now I have to laugh thinking of Biden and Harris sharing the same space over the next couple months.
Dumb and Dumber. Each of them wondering if the other stabbed them in the back. Could get nasty. Recriminations up the wazoo.
And you know a handful of tell-all, behind-the-scenes books are being keyboarded as we speak.
Jeffrey -- Chisinau, Moldova
Ya'll see what I meant? ↑↑ The truth doesn't touch him. He's already off somewhere else.
Unshakable in their attachment to their bullshit.
Everyone harks back to "It's the economy, stupid". They also seem to think there are no Democrats that understand the average working man/woman. I think that is a fallacy. There are those who do understand, Tim Walz being one of them.
I know there are those who voted their pocketbooks, yes. But I think relying on a "billionaire" who grew up in wealth and privilege to really understand their plight is rather odd. Also, if they were so concerned with declining cognitive ability Trump would also be an odd choice, given his younger more vibrant opponent.
I think I would look further as to what the problem was with Kamala Harris.
Lynnette,
You might want to close Lee C's http with . If it's not added correctly, all of the following comments will be italicized.
Or have Lee C. delete the comment, clean it up, and he can post it again with the completed link.
Or type up a new entry, I guess.
Jeffrey -- Chisinau, Moldova
Lynnette,
The HTML for italics, as you know, should end with angle bracket + forward slash + plus the small + and plus angle bracket.. If that's missing, all text following gets italicized. I think you can go into his comment and clean that up.
Jeffrey -- Chisinau, Moldova
Jeffrey,
Are you talking about after his comment at Wed M11 06, 02:54:14 PM? I am not seeing the subsequent comments being italicized. They are in a normal font.
And the link is closed. Click it. It works. Wouldn't work if it weren't closed.
He's just doing diversion--got tagged on that "Border Czar" crap and trying to hide from that behind a line of BS on a different subject.
Change of subject:
Off on a tangent:
Before we go to the next page:
I noticed that the available public polling was once again consistently "off" this cycle (and probably also the private polling done by the campaigns judging from the looks of things). They consistently under counted Trump's voting support, across all demographics and all ethnic groups and and all categories they could come up with classify a pollable segment of the population, right down to the 'under-30-one-eyed -white-male-ditch-diggers' contingent.
They consistently had Trump drawing at least a couple of points less than his actual take on election day, sometimes more than a couple.
I don't know why that is, but they seemingly can't get that problem fixed even after what's going on nine years now since Trump first oozed himself down the golden escalator at Trump Tower to announce his first run for President.
This will bear rememberin' in future elections.
All the beautiful and enlightened people are busy right now coming to terms with a second ascension of the Great Orange Leader. And the Great Orange Leader's thugs and troglodytes are equally too busy gloating. But this consistent polling error will nevertheless bear noting and remembering in future elections.
Yes, that is interesting given that polls are relatively secret. What methodology are they using that so misses the mark?
Interestingly I have noticed more Trump banners and signs since the end of the election. One wonders do they think because he won that people will think better of them? That too misses the mark.
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