This is the start of a famous poem by
Emma Lazarus, a nineteenth century Jewish poet. Most Americans, I
know, are familiar with it. But, I wonder, do they really understand
how important it was for so many people who have looked for a refuge?
We have seen the ceremonies commemorating Armistice Day, the day
that marks the armistice of World War I. But it is a day that has
come to mean more to so many who have fought in all of our wars, as
well as those who we have fought for.
I have for you today another book
recommendation. The book is “Sons and Soldiers” by Bruce
Henderson. It is the story of the sons of desperate Jewish families
who managed to escape to America prior to WWII, and subsequently
went back with the U.S Army to fight Hitler.
It was a time in history where America
and her allies stood up against a tyrant that threatened the lives of
so many innocent people. People who had endured suffering the likes
of which we do not ever want to see again. This was a time when a
state's endorsed racism, bigotry, and persecution of it's own
citizens in the name of some kind of national purity led to the
killing of those who Hitler and his minions deemed inferior or a
threat to the Nazi party's existence.
While Nazi indoctrination of the
population had been occurring for some time, people tended to brush
it off assuming that Hitler wouldn't last, that people would not go
along with what he preached. Those people were wrong. On Nov. 9 –
10, 1938 the Nazis turned what had been political, physical, in an
event that would be called Kristallnacht or the Night of Broken
Glass.
For many in the Jewish community it was
the last straw. On this Armistice Day weekend I would post this in
remembrance of those who endured the events unleashed by Hitler and who fought back. “Sons and Soldiers”
is their story. It should be heard, lest we forget.
80 comments:
Might I point out that it was not the taking in of refugees that stopped Hitler and the Nazi and that saved the remaining Jews. It was going over there and thumpin' their Nazi asses that stopped them.
Looking like the Europeans are even less impressed with Trump than they were the first time.
t was going over there and thumpin' their Nazi asses that stopped them.
Yes, exactly. The people included in the book played a significant role in helping with that.
Looking like the Europeans are even less impressed with Trump than they were the first time.
Kind of hard to believe.
I watched the interview with Michelle Obama on TV last night where she talked about her book. I wasn't going to buy it, but it sounds rather interesting. I may look into that.
From last thread. Lee:
"Analysis indicates younger voters are beginning to vote in larger numbers than have been seen in decades, vastly larger numbers. And they're not Trumpkins."
As we say in Europe: if you're young and vote right you've got no heart, but once you get older and if you still vote left you've got no brain.
They will hop to, them 'Merican youths, once they've got bills need paying. Most people do have a brain.
"As we say in Europe: … … …"
That theory will be of absolutely no help to Trump in 2020.
Current Senate count is fifty-one Republicans, two Democrats, two left to finalize (Mississippi, where there's a run-off pending; and Florida, where the count is still proceeding amidst legal challenges). Outside chance that the new Senate could come back in the same ratio as the old Senate (51-49); not bloody likely, but outside possible.
Bit of sloppy editing back there ↑↑: Currently fifty-one Republicans, forty-seven Democrats, two left to finalize.
How NGOs work with "refugees":
https://www.rt.com/news/443812-migrants-acting-ngo-exposed/
TrumpTweets: The Great Orange Leader is rather defensive this morning.
I've come up with a theory for why the Republicans are so intensely committed to selling the notion that the Kavanaugh fight is what brought Trump's poll numbers up just before the election (all the more interesting now that Trump's poll numbers are falling again). The exit polling doesn't support that story, but they keep pushing it anyway.
My theory is that they want that to be the story going forward because they don't want history to record that they held off the Democratic wave (to the extent that they held it off) on the back of Trump's racist rants about a national security threat from an invading horde of cleaning ladies and gardeners.
They don't wanna hear 'bout that in the future, so they imagine up a different story to carry with them into that faerie tale future where they're competitive again nationally. That imaginary story is the one about the supposed Kavanaugh backlash.
Michelle Obama had a rather interesting question in that interview. She was wondering how so many women could vote for a misogynist like Trump? I have often wondered that myself.
"I have often wondered that myself."
The designation in vogue these days is ‛tribalism’. (I have some minor objections to the usage, but that's the currently popular euphemism for it.) Basically, it's our side against the other side. And Trump is the currently chosen champion for their ‛side’. It's the same sort of thing as allows the Bible Thumpers to support him without reservation.
CNN suing Trump. I am confused. I thought the 1'st amendment was about freedom of speech, not about freedom to enter the White House. If that is so then any journalist in America could demand to have a press pass. Alex Jones should get one, if he asked for one, which he would.
As an assist to those who can't be bothered to look it up for themselves… Text of the 1st Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establish-
ment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the
press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress
of grievances."
(emphasis added)
So you're saying every single journalist who wants it is entitled to White House press credentials? And can then show up and behave like a shit-flinging monkey. Does that apply only for US journalists or world wide?
Also your own quote started with "Congress shall make no law..."
Guess what? Congress made no law for CNN to sue here.
"So you're saying every single journalist who wants it
is entitled to White House press credentials?"
I don't think that's what I said.
They pulled his security clearance.
The code of federal regulations states that "in granting or denying a request for a security clearance made in response to an application for a White House press pass, officials of the Secret Service will be guided solely by the principle of whether the applicant presents a potential source of physical danger to the President and/or the family of the President so serious as to justify his or her exclusion from White House press privileges."
And Trump gave no notice or allowed a response on the part of CNN. This is also something that is required.
I wonder how far this will end up going.
I can't see that either side has any incentive to settle that fight. (Acosta personally might have an incentive to settle, but I imagine he'll let his employer pay the lawyer on this one.)
Theresa May is having personnel problems in Britain today. Several of her Ministers resigned yesterday (four I think) over disagreements on the ‛Brexit’ plans. Could be the end of her government.
I notice that the Saudi state prosecutors are talking about the death penalty for those Saudi government operatives who get tagged with the blame for the death of Jamal Khashoggi. This would make the Saudi Crown Prince Mohamed bin Salman out to be an even worse boss than Trump.
Trumptweets: Got Mueller on his mind this morning.
Could be the end of her government.
Yes, it's not looking good on that side of the pond. The biggest sticking point seems to be the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland. What happens with a "hard" border?
Got Mueller on his mind this morning.
Bwahahaha! I'm not surprised.
This would make the Saudi Crown Prince Mohamed bin Salman out to be an even worse boss than Trump.
Yes, so far he hasn't actually killed any of his employees.
"What happens with a 'hard' border?"
Border guards, customs inspections, tariffs, products turned back as not importable. The usual border stuff.
Kind of annoying after years of free flow.
Rumors are running through Trump's troops in the White House that Mueller is about to unveil a load of indictments, including against Trump Jr. Supposedly that's what accounts for Trump's twitterstorm against Mueller this morning. Politico.com (I'll be a little surprised if Mueller gets Trump Jr. but doesn't get Jared Kushner).
It seems that the House Republicans are intent on getting in a shot before they lose the majority. They are going to subpoena Comey and Lynch regarding the Clinton email investigation.
Not overly impressed with their use of the last few weeks of their time.
Rumors are running through Trump's troops in the White House that Mueller is about to unveil a load of indictments, including against Trump Jr.
Who, if indicted and found guilty, will no doubt be promptly pardoned by his father. Same for Kushner. However, it might put a further crimp in their business dealings, which wouldn't go over well with Trump Senior.
Btw, I bought Michelle Obama's book. The guy checking receipts at Costco's door said it was a good day for her.
Huh! It's a good day for the Constitution. It appears that Jim Acosta got his press pass back. The judge ruled in CNN's favor.
Of course, Trump doesn't have to call on him, but, Trump bein' Trump, it ain't likely he'll be able to refrain.
Lee: "This would make the Saudi Crown Prince Mohamed bin Salman out to be an even worse boss than Trump."
Were you laboring under he impression that Clown prince Salmon was a better leader than trump?
I'm not making the leap with ya from being a ‛boss’ and being a ‛leader’; they ain't the same thing.
Were you laboring under the impression that Clown prince Salmon was a better BOSS than trump?
I had previously formed no particular opinions on that specific comparison.
Any thoughts on this analysis:
October 19, 2018: The United States announced it was withdrawing from the 1987 INF (Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces) in which the U.S. and Russia (Soviet Union) agreed to ban the production and use of land-based missiles, especially ones with nuclear warheads, with a range of 500-5,500 kilometers. By 1991 2,700 missiles had been withdrawn from service and the agreed upon ten years verification continued into the 1990s even though the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. The American withdrawal announcement was in reaction of Russian violations of the treaty (like some versions of the new Iskander and RS-26 ballistic missiles) and violations of other important nuclear disarmament deals (like the 1994 one that got Ukraine to surrender its nukes in return for a Russian guarantee that it would never seek to annex all or part of Ukraine. Another factor is that while China is not bound by the INF it is producing weapons that violate it. Russia immediately denounced the Americans, who are sending senior negotiators to Russia to discuss the matter.
Russia sees the Americans leaving INF as a major setback because until now Russia has been able to violate several Cold War era arms reductions treaties with impunity as Russia sought to rebuild its empire using the excuse that NATO was conspiring to conquer or contain, Russia. On a more practical level, the poor condition of the Russian economy plus the sanctions imposed for the annexation of Ukrainian territory has reduced Russian military capabilities. This is particularly true when it comes to producing new weapons systems. Russia has become like Iran, announcing new weapons that are little more than a press release and some unworkable prototypes.
The Russians also know this American decision is really aimed at China which, and the Americans know and the Russians refuse to admit, has a more powerful military than Russia (for the first time in centuries). The Chinese lead is growing and unlike the United States or NATO, has very real and recently (1970s) fought over claims on Russian territory (the Far East and parts of eastern Siberia). China has very deliberately never renounced these claims, not after the Chinese communists took over China in 1949 and not since. Now Russia is increasingly economically dependent on China, a condition that is getting worse for Russia and appears headed for China getting its disputed territories back via economic not military conquest. For the moment Russia plays down the Chinese threat and makes much of the imaginary one posed by NATO.
I've always made the assumption if ever there was a major conflict between larger powers it would be between the US and Russia/China. But perhaps in the future it will just be China because Russia will be on the losing side of history economically and militarily. Losing to China that is.
"Any thoughts on this analysis[?]"
I don't know that the withdrawal was ‛really aimed at China’. But, Chinese non-compliance was certainly a factor.
More to the point, the ability of the Trump administration to successfully negotiate for Russian adherence or Chinese compliance with the intermediate range missile treaty was negligible. So, it doesn't hurt much if the Trump administration withdraws as well.
I did notice a Pentagon paid analysis out just last week that suggested the United States could lose a war against the Chinese if we don't start cleaning up our act militarily (and diplomatically to a lesser degree). It didn't make much of a splash because the Trump administration didn't really want it to (certainly the Pentagon wasn't interested in promoting it as news), and Trump was up to some sort of other outrage at the same time which was eating up all the headline space, but it's worth looking at if you come across it.
Apparently the Finlanders are rather amused to hear about Trump's fantasies of Finns raking their forests. Rake News they call it; seems to be "trending" on their social media, such as they have.
NATO has decided to NOT hold a 70th anniversary celebration this year because Trump can't be counted on to pass up the chance to denounce NATO AT the celebration.
(They thought about just not inviting him, but feared he'd show up anyway.)
I did notice a Pentagon paid analysis out just last week that suggested the United States could lose a war against the Chinese if we don't start cleaning up our act militarily (and diplomatically to a lesser degree).
I saw that. That was one reason I found the analysis regarding Russia vs China kind of interesting. I wouldn't be surprised that we might have difficulty matching the Chinese hardware. They have been ramping up their technology pretty good lately. But there are other things that could tip the scales one way or another, so I still have hope that we could give a good accounting of ourselves. But mostly I hope that nothing like a hot war between the US and China ever happens.
What is more of a concern is the Chinese being in a postion to coerce people to do their bidding. Either through military might or economic pressure. The idea that the Chinese may be trying to set up an alternate economic structure with various other countries in some kind of opposition to the US wouldn't be just a danger to us, but also to those who are then put under Chinese influence.
I didn't post the analysis of the re-education camps that the Chinese have set up for Moslem citizens of China. It is their version of fighting terrorism, or so they say. There has been little push back on this from Moslem majority nations that do business with China because they are afraid of rocking the economic boat. And, I'm thinking they just don't care. This same behavior on the part of China could escalate to trying to constrain other people and countries. We've already seen some of this with respect to our companies that are trying to do business in China coming under some pressure to do things the way the Chinese want them to.
Apparently the Finlanders are rather amused to hear about Trump's fantasies of Finns raking their forests.
LOL! Now that one I've never heard! I knew Trump was going on about forest mismanagement being at fault for the California wildfires. (He never misses a chance to insult someone.) But I didn't hear about his raking claim!
(They thought about just not inviting him, but feared he'd show up anyway.)
Bad pennies usually do. Best to avoid that.
Special note for the benefit of Marcus:
The troops Trump sent to protect our southern border from an ‛invasion’ of cleaning women and gardeners are starting to come home this week just as that first ‛caravan’ of refugees from Guatemala and Honduras is starting to arrive. Axios
The mid-term elections are over; the troops are no longer useful at the border.
By the way, they're supposed to all be home by the 15th of December.
The spectre of American troops out in the southwest desert, hiding from the cleaning ladies and gardeners¹, instead of home with their families for the holidays is something Trump wants to avoid.
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¹ The ‛Posse Comitatus Act’ of the late 19th century forbids the use of federal troops to perform ‛law enforcement functions’ within the United States. So, the troops have to be keep away from the ‛caravan’ lest some of them get overeager and decide to engage with force against the refugees.
@ Lynnette,
I've begun to rethink my prior opposition to the impeachment of Donald Trump.
The almost 40 seat pickup in the House of Representatives (in spite of the massive structural advantages the Republicans have written into law for themselves) has me thinking that one over again.
Assuming that Mueller comes back with a solid case against Trump for coöperating with the Russians during the 2016 election (which is looking more likely by the day), then it might be a good idea to get the Senate Republicans down on record as opposing the impeachment of Trump before the 2020 elections. This might make it much easier to whip the whole horde of sitting Republican Senators who'll be up for reëlection in 2020. (Twenty of 'em.)
I'm thinking that one over.
A federal district judge in California has stepped in and enjoined Trump's most recent, patently illegal Executive Order aimed at keeping refugees from applying for asylum.
Gotta kinda wonder when that shortfingered sumbitch will learn to try to do things right.
This might make it much easier to whip the whole horde of sitting Republican Senators who'll be up for reëlection in 2020. (Twenty of 'em.)
I'm thinking that by 2020 Trump's(and the Republicans who supported him) policies will start to hurt. That in conjunction with their refusal to consider impeachment might help to elect others who have a better plan for governing. Or at least one that won't tear apart our entire country.
The stock market seems to be flashing a warning already.
A federal district judge in California has stepped in and enjoined Trump's most recent, patently illegal Executive Order aimed at keeping refugees from applying for asylum.
At least some of our branches of government are working.
Gotta kinda wonder when that shortfingered sumbitch will learn to try to do things right.
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
"I'm thinking that by 2020 Trump's…policies will start to
hurt."
Truth is, I had expected a sharp downturn in the stock market about nine months, maybe a year, after Trump took office. But: I had also expected the Republican deficit hawks to kill Trump's ‛stimulus’ tax cuts. I didn't think they'd go through with that. That one surprised me. (On reflection I suppose it ought not have been surprised me, but hindsight is all too often that much better than foresight.)
Meanwhile, looks like the sugar high is about to run out. And ya can't keep those things going by just pouring on more sugar.
Post Script: It would still be a mistake for the Democrats to get overeager and expect that Trump will actually be removed from office via impeachment. (This late into the game that hardly helps anyway.) The Party of Trump will never stand for that, whatever evidence Mueller serves up notwithstanding.
The point to impeaching Trump in the House of Representatives should be known in advance as solely to force the Republican Senators to go on record as accepting Russian interference in our elections and campaign fraud and obstruction of justice--get 'em down on record as in favor of, or at least indifferent to, ‛collusion’ with the Russians.
Then let 'em run for reëlection; see how that works out for 'em.
I kind of expected it sooner myself. Nothing goes up forever.
Lee: "Special note for the benefit of Marcus:
The troops Trump sent to protect our southern border from an ‛invasion’ of cleaning women and gardeners are starting to come home this week just as that first ‛caravan’ of refugees from Guatemala and Honduras is starting to arrive. Axios"
Special note for Lee (and Lynnette I guess):
Have ya'll seen what the Mexicans think of the caravan?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tijuana-locals-assault-caravan-migrants-threaten-to-rip-them-from-shelter
And this is just one of the first ones of them caravans. There are already more assembling and there will be more and more and they will get bigger and bigger.
Because there is something in the air or in the water in Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala that makes the people living there both poor and forces them to savagely murder eachother on a scale comparable to warfare. It's got nothing to do with the actual people, it's a geographic issue, or something in the water, or in the air. Once they get clear cross the US border they will become model citizens and start paying the pensions of an aging white population, which is all they ever aspired to do.
Perhaps Donald Trump would be interested in running for Mayor of Tijuana. He should be available for that post beginning late January of 2021.
Nah, he's gonna roll into a Second term in 2022.
Aren't you even a little bit ashamed that you can't control your own borders and now Mexicans, maybe the Zetas, are doin' it for ya'll?
Plus, what was so terribly illegal with Trumps decision that an immigrant has to go through the proper channels to seek asylum? I know a SF judge ruled against him but an anti-Trump judge can be found on any topic so I don't take that as an end to this debate. It might go all the way to SCOTUS and we'll see then what the law actually is.
"…you can't control your own borders…"
Demonstrably untrue.
"…Trumps decision that an immigrant has to go through the
proper channels to seek asylum?"
Also demonstrably untrue.
Caravan of immigrants? What caravan of immigrants? They seem to have disappeared from Trump's rhetoric. To be replaced with that evil Mueller...
Chief Justice Roberts mildly chides Trump's rhetoric about ‛Obama Judges’ and in return Trumptweets suddenly return to the question of immigrants (on account of Trump now thinks he has to put down the Chief Justice and the courts have been unkind to Trump on the subject of immigration).
Won't last: Roberts won't rise to the bait (not again anyway), and Trump will find Mueller a too compelling subject.
Off topic: (way off any topic been touched on 'round here)
I got up early this morning and turned on the morning news on the little kitchen tv whilst I prepared some breakfast and morning coffee, and discovered, to my horror, no morning news. Instead (and here's the horror part) the local tourist traps within OTA broadcast reach were hosting a Christmas ‛extravaganza’ thing, cheesy songs about Christ singin' country western or some such thing and a whole lot more seriously bad taste items filmed for posterity I guess (the bright sunshine made it obvious that it wasn't live).
Thanksgiving morning and they're already trying to pick up Christmas business.
You think that's tacky? The Walmart near my house has had an inflatable Christmas tree up for a couple weeks now. *Sigh* Christmas is creeping ever closer to Halloween. Poor Thanksgiving is getting the shaft.
Trump is now using his teleconference with our military to push his feud with the judicial branch, particularly the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, and making sure they know how wonderful Trumpland is doing.
Lee:
"Thanksgiving morning and they're already trying to pick up Christmas business."
I agree with your disgust. We've had Christmas related stuff for sale here for about a month already, seems like it's starting earlier every year. Plus we adopt every american born consumerist "holiday" and are just now in the middle of "Black Week" and in preparation for the yearly "Black Friday" insanity.
I notice that the Trump administration has ‛flown’ a new policy proposal (by the usual Trump administration screw-up arrangement of simply announcing the new policy as a done deal, without thinking it through, as if declaring something so was going to make it so--dumbass move again). However stupid the implementation, the basic policy idea seems sound to me. New arrivals at the southern border intending to apply for asylum will be allowed to apply for asylum before they cross over into the United States. They can apply at the border. If their applications are credible, they will be adjudicated before the applicants are allowed to enter the country. Applicants who can show a credible fear of persecution in Mexico can cross over and wait here, but most applicants will not have a credible fear of persecution in Mexico. They walked the length of Mexico without persecution; they should be fine right where they are. But, no doubt there will be exceptions, and they'll be allowed to wait on the American side of the border.
Makes sense to me. Problem I see is that the Trump administration will, no doubt, search for ways to make the implementation as cruel as possible for the petitioning ‛refugees’. The devil will probably be in the details, and there's almost certain to be devil there somewhere. Trump delights his hard-core base by being intentionally cruel; he's not gonna wanna let them down just because he's been pushed to announce a sane asylum policy. If there's a way to make it vicious in practice, and there are several, he'll almost certainly find the way
While I am not one to encourage Black Friday "behavior", it might not be a bad idea to pick up whatever you are thinking of getting this year rather than wait, because next year things may be quite different.
Trump has also suggested he could move ahead with with imposing another round of tariffs on an additional $267 billion in goods if no agreement can be reached, effectively covering all Chinese exports to the United States.
The move would tax even more consumer goods that come from China, including televisions, Apple watches, Air Pods, and Fitbits.
So far, a relatively small amount of apparel goods from China have been hit with tariffs, but a new tranche would be significant. In total, the United States receives 41% of its apparel imports from China, 80% of accessories, and 73% of footwear, said Helfenbein.
"It's almost like this year and next year are two different worlds," he said.
P.S.
They say the stock market can be a harbinger of things to come. If so, we may be in for some serious down time.
If there's a way to make it vicious in practice, and there are several, he'll almost certainly find the way.
He is quite talented at that. That, and wasting American voters' money.
For those who celebrated it, I hope your Thanksgiving was enjoyable and you were able to set aside our unfortunate politics for at least one holiday.
New Monmouth University poll claims that support for impeaching Trump is dropping off (sounds about right; I'm starting to think maybe he should be impeached--even though they'll never get a conviction, just as general public support for that idea is falling off).
Only 37% of the registered voters want to see Trump reëlected (his ‛job approval’ rating is six points higher than that--43%; this is mostly on the basis of the sugar high on the economy I think; but, even so, they don't want him back).
Give me your tired...
Even Hillary Clinton is now on record saying that Europe allowing mass immigration is a bad idea.
Now, that vampire shrew didn't make that statment on account of some wish for Europe's well being, but BC she sees that it inspires the people of Europe to vote in a nationalistic way. And that Trump gained traction from that.
She WANTS the Soros agenda where white people are displaced to continue, but she sees that it was a bit to overt with the mass flooding in 2015. Need to do it more sneakily, is Hillary's conclusion, the satanic witch that she is.
Bein' a satanic witch and whatnot, it'd be more in character for her to wish ya up plagues, and boils, and locusts by day, and evil spirits to disturb your sleep by night. (It appears you've already got a good head start on that last one.)
The inflatable Christmas tree in from of Walmart disappeared. Odd. I wonder, did some Grinch stick a pin in it? I must admit the idea was appealing...
I avoided all major stores today. I was busy getting my car fixed and running various errands. Driving last night from my brother's house my headlights decided they would turn off. You just don't realize how important they can be when driving in the dark, until they are gone. Street lights don't really do it. There was a recall out last year for a faulty headlamp module, which I didn't have done because they weren't really acting up back then. Of course, it waited until my car was beyond the warranty date.
So I see that Trump has been getting some more bad press about his phone call to the various military branches on Thanksgiving Day. Apparently some people, other than me, noticed that he seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time pushing his political agenda and trashing the judicial branch.
Another serious climate report has come out warning that the US economy is at risk for serious damage due to the effects of climate change. This from scientists within the Trump administration. Someone managed to sneak it out on Black Friday. Probably hoping no one would notice.
"Another serious climate report has come out…"
I saw that. Prognosis grim.
Large protest in Paris today over rising fuel costs and various other things. Baltimore European style?
Chris Wallace has brought a couple of public Trumpkins (Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie, co-authors of the new Trumpkin tomb, ‛Trump's Enemies’) this morning. He's been hoping to get them to promote their new book (they're doing a fine job of that) and apparently also wanted them to talk sense while they were on-the-air (having considerably less luck at getting them to appear sane).
One of the Senators on that list was quoted as saying he believed that the American people would believe that level of criticism was "weird". Perhaps that is what it will take to get people to listen to other issues, like climate change, the belief that if some of what Trump is doing is weird then perhaps other things are just as off the wall, including his climate change views.
In short, maybe they will wake up and realize this isn't a right vs left thing. It's a fantasy vs reality thing.
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