Like so many Americans out there in an
election year I normally would have shut out all of the hoopla,
rhetoric, and posturing by our political establishment, until the very
last moment. But this year I have actually tuned into parts of the
Republican and Democratic conventions. As of this writing you will
know that the nominees for both parties have been chosen, Donald
Trump for the Republicans and Hillary Clinton for the Democrats.
More so than any other election that I
can remember this one seems to be a pivotal point in our history.
It is the first time in history that a woman has been nominated for
president of the United States by a major political party. At the
same time it is an election that has exposed deep divisions within
our society, not just of race and economics, but of how we view our
country and its potential, and how we treat each other. I have
listened with sadness.
But on the first night of the
Democratic convention, among the very good speakers there was one,
Cory Booker, who made me smile. Obviously a partisan speech, but it
embodied the hopeful spirit that I have always felt lay at the heart
of who we, as Americans, are.
That is the America I want to live in. That is the America that can face its problems and prevail.
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And he was loud.
The first few minutes are inspiring. For a "positive" talk he then spent a lot of time denigrating Trump, not all of it was factual. As soon as he started talking about Hillary a chant of "war hawk" started up in the audience. Various other chants throughout also, such as "black lives matter". It seems even the DNC is not as united as he wants the whole country to be. He ended well though.
And he was loud.
lol! Yup. I think he wanted to be heard up there in the rafters.
For a "positive" talk he then spent a lot of time denigrating Trump, not all of it was factual.
That's the partisan part.
Various other chants throughout also, such as "black lives matter".
I think they were invited, judging by the speakers they had on tonight.
It seems even the DNC is not as united as he wants the whole country to be.
No, probably not, given so many who supported Sanders. Everyone has a right to their opinions.
He ended well though.
I thought so. I felt with so many divisions it was necessary to remind us that we really are stronger when we act together. We'll see if anyone else was listening. :)
I wonder how long it'll be before Trump dreams up a conspiracy theory for how the Democrats were secretly conspiring with the Russians and with WikiLeaks just to make him look bad? (Marcus likes conspiracy theories; this one should be convoluted enough to attract him, moth to candle.)
"…polls show the vast majority of Sanders voters will back Clinton
in the fall, and as suggested by the raucous applause Tuesday night
when Sanders formally turned his delegates over to Clinton during the
roll-call vote, that seems true among the delegates here in Philadel-
phia as well. They aren’t providing dramatic TV footage like the
holdouts with anti-Clinton placards and hey-hey-ho-ho drum circles, but
they’re heeding their first-choice candidate’s advice to back the
Democrat who agrees with them on most policy issues and isn’t Donald
Trump."
Politico
I know there are those who are considering protest votes by voting a third party, or not voting at all, but the practicalities are that those votes are just a vote for one or the other of the major candidates. You have to decide if you can live with that first.
I expect that advance public polling will reveal whether or not Hillary or Trump will be winning my state, and probably by approximately what margin. (Normally this is a red state, but it is Trump we're talking ‘bout this time.) Assuming the winner here is a foregone conclusion, as usual, I figure I'll be free to take a pencil in with me and write in someone whom I might find preferable. (I'm not sure I'd find either Johnson's Libertarian administration nor Jill Stein's Green Party ticket preferable, although both are on the ballot here.)
Obama's on stage tonight. (Biden too I think.).
And, by the way, this helps explain the relatively low voter turnout in the United States. In European model democracies the effect of voting on who is elected to the government is generally proportional to the votes they receive nationally. In the United States, who's gonna win the Presidency is usually a matter of which party wins about 10 or 11 ‘swing states’. The other 40 or so states are foregone conclusions. Trump's gonna win in Alabama and Mississippi--it's gonna happen; we all know it. Folks in Alabama and Mississippi go out to vote for President out of a sense of civic duty, not because they think it's gonna matter in significant immediate sense, like affecting who's gonna win; it's not gonna effect who's gonna win, and they know it.
How to get under Trump's skin. (Subtitle ‘What Elizabeth Warren already knows’.)
The special prosecutor in the Freddie Gray case (black kid, broken neck in the paddy wagon) has decided to dismiss charges against the remaining three defendants after being unable to secure a conviction in the first four trials. Says she's just spinning her wheels with this--doesn't think she can get a conviction in the remaining three either (same judge I think). CNN
Apparently Trump has decided to go a different direction with the Russian hacking thing. The man is unpredictable; that is not the move I would have forecast.
I saw that. It just reinforces why I don't want him as president. I don't care if his strategy is to keep people guessing, I don't care for encouraging cyber attacks from a country that so obviously doesn't have our best interests at heart. That's way beyond divisive.
I thought Bill Clinton did all right last night. I think he has aged, especially his voice.
I don't think Amy Klobuchar did real well. She seemed kind of nervous.
"I don't think Amy Klobuchar did real well."
‘Fraid I can't give you a review on her; I missed her performance.
He has a grandiose sense of self; he gets furious with those who challenge him, and if he gains the powers of the presidency, he will use them to confirm his self-image and punish those who attack it. This is the profile of a man who is not fit for duty. It is the face of a tyrant. The question is whether the country sees it before the election, or after he wins it. From Lee's Politco article.
Exactly.
Competition's gettin’ stiff:
"After Michelle Obama’s show-stealing speech on Monday,
according to a White House official, President Barack Obama stayed
up until 3:30 am tweaking his own [speech]."
Politico.com
Biden gave a rambling, wandering around sort of speech, and it was great. He had the crowd on their feet in the middle of it. Chanting, ‘Not a clue’ and meaning Trump.
Obama has more competition than just Michelle--Biden had ‘em chanting.
Wow. Who lit a fire under Joe Biden? I've never been fond of him, but that speech I think was oen of the highlights of the convention. It was one of the most sincere, passionate speeches I've ever heard him give.
Just listened to Bloomberg. I have never heard so many people give speeches that seem to delve into real emotion. They don't feel like the usual party hacks. Bloomberg sounds quite a bit like me when it comes to his voting choices. I have done the same thing, voting for the candidate rather than the party. Everything he said matched my feelings regarding the party platforms. His comment about knowing a con when he sees one also reflects my thoughts regarding Trump.
"Wow. Who lit a fire under Joe Biden?"
The spectre of Donald Trump sitting in the Oval Office.
Yeah. It appears to work for many people.
Obama gave an excellent speech, but it was a little deficient on why, specifically, to vote for Hillary. In the end Michelle did a better job than Barack on that. I can see why he was trying to revise it after Michelle's address.
I don't know, I think I might have to disagree. I too think the President gave an excellent speech, but I also think he made a very good case about why we need to vote for Hillary rather than Trump.
If you have never read the book In the Garden of Beasts you should give it a look. It is set in Berlin during the rise of Hitler. What is interesting is that the people in that time period did not really recognize until it was too late what their government was. While I don't honestly believe that Trump is on a par with Hitler, he is a danger to our economy (as Bloomberg noted) in his isolationist and protectionist stance, and he is a danger to our liberty with his hateful and revengeful rhetoric (as noted in your article and as Obama mentioned in his speech). He is a demagogue.
In this election it is not a difference of policy between the two parties, it is a difference of soul.
"…he made a very good case about why we need to vote for Hillary
rather than Trump."
Yeah, but I suppose I was looking for the case for Hillary, independent of any reference to Trump.
I think for Hillary it might be a two edged sword. Obama's case included Hillary's experience as well as her perseverance in the face of headwinds. For the other side it is just evidence that she is part of the establishment which they want to tear apart.
I truly believe that Trump is bad for the country. Listening to him run off at the mouth with whatever enters his head is not how a rational person behaves in a presidential election. I will not risk a protest vote. Besides, I honestly think it is time that the United States gives a woman a chance as president. I think there is enough good credentials in Hillary's background to outweigh whatever bad there may be.
Changing the subject for a moment, it appears that there is a development in the case of flight MH370.
Some folks doing climate change research in Italy decided to work over the debris found to date with their information on ocean currents and surface winds and have come up with new prediction for the crash site based on backtracking the debris.
"I will not risk a protest vote."
I don't intend to risk a protest vote. If there's any chance my state will be competitive I'm voting for Hillary. But, it's likely that it'll be overboard for Trump, no questions. We got three months to see if he can hurt himself enough that these rednecks will vote for Hillary (or even the Libertarian), but I think they'd vote for Satan himself if he ran as a Republican against Hillary.
NBC is reporting that there are significant questions about whether Melania Trump actually has the college degrees she she claimed she has for years now. (In the wake of those questions her website has been taken down entirely and redirects to Donald's webpage. Small matter--kinda "who cares" type of thing, except for Donald's continued ranting about Hillary's truthfulness. Maybe a little résumé embellishment doesn't seem so bad to him now?)
Hillary's not known for being a good public speaker. And, she still had the stilted "Hillary Presentation" tonight, but it was one of her better speeches. It was a good written speech, and it was a fairly good delivery. I think she did what she needed to do, which is, she did better than Trump.
Yes, compared to the other speakers who went before her, her delivery was rather stilted, but she tried very hard to inject some emotion into the content of her speech. I agree, it was one of her better speeches.
I am rather curious to see a debate between Hillary and The Donald. I suspect she will not be as easy a target as the others who went before her.
She might maul him. If it's bad enough in the first debate, there'll not be a second one. He won't feel compelled to stand for that twice.
Der Spiegel Stories of a few of the child soldiers Da’esh is training up.
Lee:
"Der Spiegel Stories of a few of the child soldiers Da’esh is training up."
Another reason why Europe MUST shut its gates - completely. That won't be enough to stop future terrorism but it's a must in order not to make a bad situation even worse. It will be bad enough as it is.
The corrupt and self serving Clintons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM
Please do view it before you pass judgement.
hour and nine minutes? Takes that long to tell us what the allegations are? Really? And you want us to watch it?
It will be bad enough as it is.
I think that our FBI may agree with you, Marcus.
Terrorist diaspora
Stories of a few of the child soldiers Da’esh is training up.
That's a sad article. It reminds me of the child soldiers that have been forced into war in various African countries.
Another reason why Europe MUST shut its gates - completely.
I think there is still hope for the children, Marcus. It is the fighters who come back from the Middle East who are the bigger problem. Or, perhaps, even those who are native to the country who are radicalized.
I've only watched the first few minutes of the video, Marcus. No time to watch the whole thing now.
Takes that long to tell us what the allegations are?
So far it looks like the video is about the Clintons' connections to leaders in Africa, such as Paul Kagame, and the role they play in facilitating companies who do business there. In exchange the Clintons supposedly get donations for their foundation and large speaking fees.
A list of speaking fees here. Hmmm...yes, it does appear that former President Clinton and Hillary Clinton do command large fees, as do a number of others. However, it is actually someone else who commands more, to the tune of about 1.5 million dollars. Anyone wanna guess who that someone is? lol!
"…and the role they play in facilitating companies who do business
there…"
That's not even an allegation; that's an innuendo. What's the allegation, or have you teased one out of the film yet?
"I am rather curious to see a debate between Hillary and The Donald."
‘The Donald’ is complaining about the debate schedule already. Doesn't like competing with the NFL. Says it's a plot.
Doesn't like competing with the NFL. Says it's a plot.
lol! Perhaps that's his way of wussing out?
That's not even an allegation; that's an innuendo. What's the allegation, or have you teased one out of the film yet?
So far the film is way heavy on innuendo. Whoever put that together really, really doesn't like the Clintons. In all honesty I don't know of anything they have done that other politicians haven't, including Bill's diddling with the other women.
My biggest question would be the policies that the Clintons, specifically it would be Bill Clinton, put in place that helped lead to the housing crash and Great Recession of 2007. However, I will have to set those concerns aside as I feel Trump's policies would lead to even worse economic turmoil.
"Perhaps that's his way of wussing out?"
Hadn't thought of that; may be.
I know it's politically incorrect to notice this, as Marco Rubio finally admitted, but Trump does have stubby little fingers and fairly small hands for a guy who's 6'4".
I couldn't help noticing that the political news this weekend was all about Trump. He does have a way of grabbing the headlines.
That might seem like a good idea, but at some point I gotta think that the American public is going to start getting sick of hearing about his latest tweet rant.
Trump's run in with a Gold Star family.
Perhaps Marcus can come to understand that publicity can be a net negative. (Trump seems yet to understand that though.)
Trump has claimed that he's gonna "renegotiate" the fall Presidential Debate schedule. The Commission on Presidential Debates has responded:
"The Commission on Presidential Debates responded to Donald
Trump and the Republican National Committee's complaints about the
debate schedule with a message on Sunday: The schedule is set."
Politico.com
Rush Limbaugh is telling us that recently discovered ‘girl-on-girl’ nude photos of Melania Trump are likely to lock up the LBGT vote for Trump. The Daily Limbaugh
I mean, this is just the Kardashians in a sense of the subject type stuff.
And there are some in the Republican base, as well as others, who will find this a total turn off in a First Lady.
I think Limbaugh may be a little optimistic about the effect on the gay community too.
Islam in Europe:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/07/26/unreported-terrorism-targeting-frances-catholic-communities.html#.V5oLXXzGoi0.email
"“In recent weeks, Catholics in France and Belgium — countries still recovering from brutal ISIS attacks — have been hit with numerous acts of violence and aggression, including fires set in churches, an assault on a priest, the desecration of a tabernacle.
“More than 100 Catholic websites… of churches and congregations were hacked by suspected Tunisian cyber-jihadists who call themselves the Fallaga Team.”
Tuesday’s murder of an 84-year-old priest, the grave injuries to a nun, and the hostage-taking of Catholics attending Mass suggest an escalation of these shadowy activities.
For political and ideological reasons, whenever possible French politicians (along with many other European authorities) continue to downplay such attacks. In response, few major media sources bother to report them.
Nonetheless, as the jihadi saying goes, “First the Saturday People, then the Sunday People.” Islamist radicals consistently target Jews and Christians."
Trump might be an interesting phenomenon to follow from here on in. It's not yet been a full week but it's already apparent that Hillary's gotten a bigger bounce out of the conventions than did Trump, who actually lost ground.
He'll be behind from here on out. He's already seen his best poll numbers. It's all downhill for him from here. That'll sink in with him soon.
Should be interesting to watch him.
Latest I heard Trump was ahead in some poll or other. Might've been before those tweets about the Khans. I think he may have jumped the shark on that that one, even with his conservative fanboys.
Seems the same to me. Although I would take his lead in some polls with a grain (or a shovel) of salt, much like the lead Hillary has in the most recent polls.
He did handle the situation with the Kahns badly though, as far as I can tell. Probably the articles Lee linked to a week or so back are correct in how to beat Trump. Provoke him and let him hurt himself, since he seems not to be able to avoid defending himself fiercly even in losing battles where he'd do better by just shutting up. I can see that tendency.
It remains to be seen how it affects voters though. Polls are a dime a dozen and can't be relied upon until there's an established trend.
RCP Polling averages Clinton vs Trump; Clinton leads by 4.4 % nationally. Clinton vs Trump vs Johnson (Libertarian Party) vs Stein (Green Party); Clinton leads by 4.4% nationally.
RCP Polling averages are worth paying attention to. They have an historical credibility. Ditto for Nate Silver's prediction models, which give odds of 2 to 1 in favor of Clinton, as of today.
I've tried to tell you people this before; ‘buy ‘em books and buy ‘em books, and they just don't learn’.
And, from here on out, it's all downhill for Trump. He's seen his best days. It'll be interesting to watch him as that sinks in with him across the next three months. (At least for a time; a frantic and desperate Trump may get old rather fast.)
Canadian Op-Ed predicting more ugliness across Europe (but which also seems to anticipate a Trump victory in The United States, so might wanna take this one with a grain of salt.)
"And, from here on out, it's all downhill for Trump. He's seen his
best days."
What's changed is that Bernie's out of it finally. That show the first two days at the Democratic National Convention proved that Bernie's die-harders hadn't really accepted that Bernie had lost until the vote was actually taken the second day, and it was a done deal.
It's just Clinton and Trump now, and it's all downhill for him from here.
How he treated the Khans resonates with more people than just the Khans.
Sacrificing a loved one to the defense of one's country will always matter more than building a business for personal gain.
From Marcus' article:
Thanks to the careful scrutiny of international Jewish publications, attacks by radical Islamists on French Jews and their businesses, synagogues and cemeteries are better known.
There have been innumerable such assaults; perhaps the most widely reported was on January 9, 2015 at Hyper Casher, a Kosher supermarket in Vincennes, where four hostages were murdered. Tablet Magazine listed 25 such incidents in 2014 alone; many more have taken place since.
In response, according to the Jewish Agency for Israel (JAFI), 10 percent of French Jewry has relocated to Israel since 2000.
It would seem to me that they are jumping the gun a little. I don't know that I would consider Israel safer than Europe.
Also, it occurs to me that, long after ISIS ceases to exist as an entity that holds territory, there will be people who pledge their support to them.
"10 percent of French Jewry has relocated to Israel since 2000."
Just points out that the movement of French Jews to Israel had begun before the Muslim influx and had been triggered by renewed antisemitism among France's ‘Christain’ population. The situation for Jews wasn't improved by the Muslim influx, but it was getting ugly again even before that happened.
There was an interesting letter in my local paper the other day regarding those who follow jihad. It is an illustration of the various interpretations of Islamic teachings. The letter was written by an Islamic scholar who said that the term jihad was meant to refer to the fight for religious freedom. So, in that case, the United States, with the idea of religious freedoms written into its Constitution, is following that practice already. Far more so than the leaders of Daesh.
"The letter was written by an Islamic scholar who said that the term
jihad was meant to refer to the fight for religious freedom."
That seems like a rather strained interpretation to me, but we've got practicing Christians who're going along with gay marriage and gay priests, so…
It appears that Trump is preparing to challenge his anticipated loss in November, either in court, or, possibly, in the streets.
It seems you were right about that trade issue.
Lee: "Just points out that the movement of French Jews to Israel had begun before the Muslim influx and had been triggered by renewed antisemitism among France's ‘Christain’ population."
What do you call 'em droppin's from a steer? Is it BULLSHIT? I think it is.
I should know beecause jews have been leaving Malmö for years now. And no - it's not because of any "christian" anti semitism.
Do you think the muslims in France came after year 2000? Seriously?
How i loathe you apologists for all things Islam- or immigrant-related. Women raped? It's their own fault! Jews killed or terrorised by muslims? It's the white cristians fault!
I'm not an apologist for Islam on this. However, neither have I been blind to the rise of native antisemitism among the the right wing elements of European continental democracies, including that set of ‘Swedish Democrats’ of whom you've become enamored of late.
I link to an article about Jihadi threats against jews and christians, explicit threats, and what you come up with is that because jews have been fleeing France before the very last mass influx of refugees, never mind the 5 million muslims already IN france, it must be white neo-nazis scaring off jews. I don't believe you are THAT dumb - ergo you're running cover for Jihadi scum. So yes, you're an apologist for Islamism alright. (although for sure not in the US, only in the Europe that you hate over all else)
The Sweden Democrats? These guys?
https://www.google.se/search?q=SD+och+Israel&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=923&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUsL27vqTOAhXKkywKHeRSBmQQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1#imgrc=_
Two afghans rape 16 YO girl at music festival in Denmark, 7 more women sexually assaulted to varying degrees:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/afghanere-sigtes-for-voldtaegt-mod-16-aarig-paa-langelandsfestivalen/6214895
Those Danes must have provoked the poor refugee-children something awful. Neo-nazism cannot be ruled out.
Near the area where a 14 YO girl was dragged into a bush and raped in the middle of the day by a dark skinned man just the other day a 35 YO woman goes out late in the evening looking for her cat. That was foolish. She was beaten down from behind, lost consiousness, and woke up already raped with three men standing over her talking in a foreign tounge:
http://www.expressen.se/kvallsposten/ny-overfallsvaldtakt-i-malmo-misstanks/
Must have been right-wing swedes out raping as usual while practicing their language skills. Probably talking about their jew-hating in hungarian. Seems most likely.
Group of about 10 arab men estimated 15-20 YO sexually terrorise 13 YO girls in Nässjö:
http://www.vetlandaposten.se/article/unga-flickor-blev-ofredade/
They just wanted to play a little taharrush the poor refugee-children and the racist swedish girls wouldn't play along. Shameful shit!
Somali man murders 20 YO dane. Caught in Somaliland. Cannot be extradited to kuffars. However sentenced to 20 years and a fine of 33 and 1/3 camels:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/advokat-om-dom-paa-20-aar-og-33-kameler-det-er-grinagtigt/6219629
Unclear how parents of murdered dane will collect their 33 and 1/3 due camels.
"The Sweden Democrats? These guys?"
The Sweden Democrats―these guys:
"Björn Söder, party secretary of the anti-immigration Sweden
Democrats party and also deputy speaker of parliament, told
newspaper Dagens Nyheter there were some groups in Swedish
society who were citizens but belonged to other nations — namely
Jews and Sami.
"Asked if a person could not be Jewish and Swedish at the same time,
Söder said, “I think most people of Jewish origin that have become
Swedes leave their Jewish identity."
You are familiar with Björn Söder, are you not?
Of course, not all Swedish anti-Semites are ‘Sweden Democrats’; anti-Semitism runs a wider streak through Sweden than that. For instance: There's the mayor of Malmö; you live in Malmö; you know ‘bout the Mayor, do you not?
And, I'm thinking your English has failed you again. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the English word apologist. You're welcome.
Lee: "You are familiar with Björn Söder, are you not?"
I am, but you're not. Björn Söder is for sure not an anti-semite. He's personal friend with jews and a staunch Israel supporter.
The quote you posted is from an interview where he was asked about official minority groups in Sweden, and there are five and two are the Sami and the Jews, which are considered Nations whose people are not required to assimilate themselves but may do so if they wish. It was a theoretical discussion about the meaning of the Nation and belonging to it. This is based on a difference between belonging to a Nation and being a citizen in the country which might be alien to an American like you. You know who did agree with him though? Jews. Swedish jews. They too, not all but many, see themselves as citizens of sweden but belonging to the Jewish Nation. You can read an analysis of this here:
http://www.jpost.com/printarticle.aspx?id=386623
That was what that was about. And I can 100% guarantee you that Björn Söder is no anti-semite.
Lee: "There's the mayor of Malmö; you live in Malmö; you know ‘bout the Mayor, do you not?"
He's our socialist former mayor and might or might not be an anti-semite. I am no fan of him politically but I do give him the benefit of the doubt on that issue. I think he's made some murky statements mostly to curry favour among our large muslim population and amongst left-wingers who hate Israel. I think that was local populism, mostly.
I did notice this in your linked article though:
"... a new form of anti-Semitism. This kind does not stem from neo-Nazis or right-wing extremists—traditional perpetrators of European Jew-hatred—but has come to the city through immigrants from North Africa and the Middle East and is part of a larger, countrywide problem of failed integration."
Just like in France.
That's not to say you can't find the old version of anti-semitism any longer. There are nazis left and there are jew-haters on the extreme left also, although the leftists typically hate Israel and side with the palestinians while the nazis hate jews simply for being jews.
But these are quite few. I'd say they've shrunk in numbers. They and their kind of anti semitism isn't the reason jews are fleeing. Not in Malmö, not in France.
"And I can 100% guarantee you that Björn Söder is no anti-semite."
You know him personally, do ya? ‘Cause I remember how you were telling us that Hitler solved the German financial crisis, the hyperinflation, that was actually solved a decade before Hitler took power. Your tendency to whitewash fascists has been plain for a long time. (Gotta figure, in fact, that your growing admiration for Putin is a reflection of your recognition of his fascist rather than communist nature.)
And your misogynous tendencies and tendency to enjoy when young white girls get raped and also tendency to whitewash jihadi terrorists every time their victims are non-Americans, that's been clear for some time now.
"This is based on a difference between belonging to a Nation and
being a citizen in the country which might be alien to an American like
you."
We are thoroughly familiar with the concept of second class citizenship based on blatant racism. We are, however, much further along than you in overcoming it.
"Wed Aug 03, 04:53:00 am"
Wasn't even a good try. Maybe you wanna try again?
There's just no point in adressing you Lee. You're either a willful idiot or a quarrelsome know-it-all wannabe. In either case you make a fool out of yourself with your blatant disregard for reason and reality.
I post a link to how Jihadi muslims in Europe target jews and christians alike. One consequence of this is jews leaving Europe.
You try to turn this into a story where jews are leaving not because of Islamic fanatics but because of "christian" european's jew hatred.
I point out that in the articles I linked to, and even the ones YOU linked to jews themselves say it's muslim jew hatred that's the problem here.
Then you go on and bring in Hitler and try and paint ME as a supporter of Nazism.
You try to tell ME what's up in Malmö, my own home town. You post ludicrous statements saying Björn Söder, a hardcore Israel supporter with many jewish personal friends, is an anti-semite. You seem to ascribe the same to me.
Well, my own aunt who I have coffe with every week is a jew. Her son, my cousin, is a jew. Her late husband, my uncle, was one of my very best friends and my Godfather and he married a jew, and before that he married another jew who I have fond childhood memories of and whom I visited in LA and who still thinks of me as family. And I love them all.
And you drag up Hitler, like I was a jew hater. Based on basically nothing. You're just a dumb f*ck Lee, and sorry but I can't take you seriously.
"One consequence of this is jews leaving Europe."
My point was that the Jews were fleeing Europe before the ‘Jihadi Muslims’ got to Europe, and they were fleeing from the resurgent native anti-semitism. I also noted that influx of Muslims had made things worse for them (Lee C. @ Tue Aug 02, 02:31:00 pm, supra). Nobody was letting the Muslims off the hook for their contributions to European anti-semitism, but ya can't blame it all on the Muslim influx either--the resurgence of anti-semitism predates the Muslim influx.
"Then you go on and bring in Hitler and try and paint ME as a
supporter of Nazism."
Supporter of fascism; not all fascists are Nazis; only some of them.
"…a hardcore Israel supporter with many jewish personal friends…
We've all heard that defense before, except the American version was, ‘but some of my best friends are black.’ It'll get ya laughed at in public over here. I see no reason not to laugh at you publicly now.
@ Lynnette:
It would appear that the Republican mandarins are of the opinion that Trump's performance over the last week or ten days has not done him any permanent damage, yet.
I am seriously starting to wonder if there isn't something wrong with Trump. He is 70. I have read that signs of dementia can be present earlier than we may realize.
A mass stabbing in London
"I am seriously starting to wonder if there isn't something wrong
with Trump."
If there is, it's always been wrong with Trump. He's not particularly different now that he's 70; he's just being Trump on a bigger stage.
Melania Trump may have originally been an illegal immigrant. (Of course, she's married to a citizen now, so she's not likely to get sent back.)
Marcus was regaling us earlier with tales of a British economic boom following the Brexit vote.
There seems to be some significant dispute about that, and a question of whether or not those books were cooked.
So, the really rich will still be getting richer but not as much richer as they might have gotten otherwise. The people got their country back though. I think they made a good deal.
And I do note how advocates for "democracy" suddenly have second thoughts about democratic votings. Not surprised to find Communist Lee C, always on the side of the most current Politbureau, amongst them. An advovate for "democracy" but not so much for democracy.
Daesh has plans for continued terror:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/world/middleeast/isis-german-recruit-interview.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=1
That the US is exempt is most likely because it's hard for them to get there. Otherwise one would assume the US to be a prime target.
One more reason for us in Europe to build walls and stop at least somee of these lunatics from entering.
The GOP Civil War has heated up
Donald Trump insisted to a packed audience in Florida Wednesday that the campaign has "never been so well united."
But behind the scenes, an all-out war between the party establishment and conservative base is breaking out -- in the halls of Congress, the fight for control of the Senate and in battleground states -- all threatening the GOP's chances of winning this fall.
He's not particularly different now that he's 70; he's just being Trump on a bigger stage.
I don't really know much about The Donald. I didn't realize he's always been delusional.
"I didn't realize he's always been delusional."
I don't believe he is. He doesn't actually believe the BS he spouts and spins--believing it is for the suckers to whom he's spouting and spinning. He's simply a bullshit artist, as Fareed Zackaria has noted, and he's always been one.
Michael Gove, a former Conservative Cabinet minister, and one of the most prominent Leave campaigners, famously said during the referendum campaign that the British people “had had enough of experts.”
lol! So who did they listen to? The non-experts? Say what?
And I do note how advocates for "democracy" suddenly have second thoughts about democratic votings.
No, not against democratic voting, against the lies and spin put on the issues.
He's simply a bullshit artist...
P.T. Barnum would be in awe.
Apparently Melania Trump has addressed the allegations of her illegal status when she first came to the United States. Also apparently, she has learned the art of BS from her husband; just absorbed it perhaps by proximity; I rather doubt she took formal lessons. Politico.com
I thought I would post this here as well, as that article is of note.
A comment I posted over at Zeyad's as a response to one made by Bruno:
To be honest Iraq scares the crap out of me.
That whole region does, for me.
When you have people who are willing to do this, or allow it to happen, you have a region rife for violence, no matter who is putting boots on the ground.
A gay refugee living in Turkey has been found brutally murdered, his body so mutilated his friends could only identify him by his pants, a local rights group said.
The man went missing on July 23 and was found two days later in the Yenikapi district of Istanbul.
He had previously been threatened, kidnapped and raped, according to Kaos Gay and Lesbian Cultural Research and Solidarity Association (KAOS GL), a Turkish rights group. CNN is not naming the victim out of concern for his family's safety.
I'm seriously starting to re-think Turkey as a member of NATO. Maybe they and the Russians deserve each other.
It was about 10-12 years ago, or so, a black man was tied and dragged behind a pickup truck in Texas, to his death. Fairly brutal attack, that.
Might wanna not make too much of any one single ‘hate crime’. (Not that I dispute your conclusions either--may eventually need to get Turkey out of NATO the way it's going.)
Lynnette: "When you have people who are willing to do this, or allow it to happen, you have a region rife for violence, no matter who is putting boots on the ground."
That's just one incident though. You had Ahmadinejad when he was Prime Minister of Iran saying there are o homosexuals in Iran. In Uganda, a Christian country, homosexuality is outlawed.
As for draconic repressive measures one of the worst I've heard of was from Iraq. Supporters of Sadr, the Mahdi army as it was, glued the anuses of gay men shut with industrial glue and then forced them to drink laxatives. The result was they rotted from within and died from blood poisoning.
Turkey - in my mind it's a great shame that Turkey seems to be throwing the secularism that did them so much good overboard for Islamic radicalism. I very much doubt they'll benefit from that.
And I'm glad I visited Istabul back when I did, 5 years ago, I wouldn't want to go there now.
It was about 10-12 years ago, or so, a black man was tied and dragged behind a pickup truck in Texas, to his death. Fairly brutal attack, that.
I remember that. It was horrible, and a lot of people said so. I know there is hatred to be found everywhere. Hatred that will manifest itself in violent ways. The people who perpetrated the crime in the US were brought to justice. If Turkey finds the people who killed the man there I will re-think my position.
That's just one incident though.
Yes, I know. The video posted in the article shows some incidents carried out by Daesh as well. I believe that there are many countries, and people, in that region that could re-think their attitudes and behavior. It might actually help make something constructive rather than destructive.
Turkey legalises sex with children:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-constitutional-court-stirs-outrage-by-annulling-child-sex-abuse-clause.aspx?PageID=238&NID=101607&NewsCatID=509
Not surprinsingly since Turkey is drifting in an ever more Ilamist direction, and after all Mohammed married Aisha when she was 6 years old and consommated
that marrige when she was nine.
Since Islamists view the life of ohamed as a perfect one obviously 9 YO girls are apt for what we in saner countries call rape.
Turkey is seriously backsliding these days...
Kasich offered VP slot?
Ohio Gov. John Kasich still isn't ready to support Donald Trump for president -- but he confirmed that one of his aides was contacted about possibly joining the real estate mogul's ticket as his vice president.
Kasich told CNN's Jake Tapper that he didn't receive a call himself. But he said one of his aides confirmed to him a New York Times report last month saying Donald Trump Jr. tried to entice Kasich with a position as the most powerful vice president in history -- putting him in charge of all domestic and foreign policy -- was accurate.
Machete attack in Belgium
A machete-wielding man shouting "Allahu akbar" (God is the greatest) wounded two policewomen in southern Belgium on Saturday before being shot dead, in what appeared to be the latest in a string of jihadist attacks in Europe.
The attack outside the main police station in the city of Charleroi, around 60 kilometres (40 miles) south of Brussels, left one of the policewomen with "deep wounds to the face" while the other was slightly injured, Belga news agency said.
Now this is kind of weird.
Iran executes nuclear scientist
Iran's official news agency, IRNA, is confirming that Iran has executed a nuclear scientist who gave the U.S. intelligence about the country's contested nuclear program.
What's weird is that he was in the US, but supposedly fled without the money. Huh? Now if this were a spy novel he didn't really flee willingly.
I've been trying to think of a new post, but nothing has struck me.
I'm going to see the play The Lion King at the Orpheum today so I'll have to put the post off again. *sigh*
I hope everyone has been enjoying the Olympics. I caught a bit of the opening ceremony. I see they had a Team Refugee this year. A nice thing I'm thinking, considering there are so many without homes right now.
"…but supposedly fled without the money. Huh?"
Story is he had what is loosely described as "mental problems".
Haven't seen much of Petes and his ‘science’ supporting a Trump presidency here of late. Ya'll s'pose he's out gathering data on that?
Probably golfing.
Well, he's not gonna fortify his argument that way.
The Prime Meridian is an arbitrary, imaginary line running north/south through Greenwich, England.
According to some scientists, who have decided to revisit the matter, this otherwise arbitrary Prime Meridian is actually located 334 feet too far to the west. Space.com.
Who wants to explain what's wrong with this picture?
[Chump]: "Haven't seen much of Petes and his ‘science’ supporting a Trump presidency here of late. Ya'll s'pose he's out gathering data on that?"
Nope, I jes' came to the same conclusion as Marcus, but figgered y'all weren't worth wastin' electrons on.
[Marcus]: "There's just no point in adressing you Lee. You're either a willful idiot or a quarrelsome know-it-all wannabe. In either case you make a fool out of yourself with your blatant disregard for reason and reality."
And that's probably a few electrons more'n ya deserve. Yore welcome.
Not gonna fortify your supposed ‘science’ that way. Maybe you're just hoping everybody forgets that you supposedly have ‘science’ on your side for the prediction of a Trump victory in November?
Who wants to explain what's wrong with this picture?
I suspect I should avoid at all costs trying to answer this question.
lol!
While I watched some of the opening ceremonies at the Olympics I missed the Russian team entering the stadium. Apparently they were greeted with some boos because of the doping issue.
I think I promised I would link to that CNN Special Why They Hate Us when it became available.
[Lynnette]: "I suspect I should avoid at all costs trying to answer this question."
I suspect you're right. I suspect Lee has dug up another Wikipedia page that he doesn't understand, has come to some utterly bizarre and erroneous conclusion, and will happily spend the next five years obfuscating about it even when you point out that not a single other inhabitant of the planet agrees with him ;-)
"I suspect Lee has dug up another Wikipedia page that he doesn't understand…"
I may have referred to one that you don't understand (remembering your supposedly "asymetric [sic] sunrise" here ), but the Wiki page I mentioned is hardly the point here. (Although it does contain a hint at what's wrong with the assumptions underlying the Space.com article, I think we can safely say you'll never figure it out even with the Wiki page.)
Turkish President, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, is on his first trip abroad since the recent attempted coup against him. He's visiting Putin in St. Petersburg. And they're making nice. BBC
More on that in the NYT
I guess we need some fun stuff here as well as the serious stuff. So here's a story about the unwilling "refugee":
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/08/chinese-tourist-who-lost-wallet-in-germany-ends-up-in-refugee-shelter
Not that he was any less of a "refugee" than all the other candidates for European wellfare but at least he never meant to pose as such...
I thought misplacing the Prime Meridian might be fun stuff (admittedly, it's not on par with the unwilling refugee). It's not my fault that Petes turns everything into a fight.
I guess we need some fun stuff here as well as the serious stuff.
Yes. We can't be serious all the time. :) I actually have felt it is time for a lighter post too.
But that poor man. Talk about a case of mistaken identity.
Speaking of refugee stories, Marcus, here's a possible idea for our American friends, should everything go "Pete Tong" in November. Lee C would probably have to learn some manners, but he'd probably do jes' fine at the equivalent of the local hoedown.
Place has no trees. Gotta have trees.
Could be a slight problem. That neck of the woods hasn't seen any trees for more'n 5,000 years. Y'all may have to go with the boringly obvious option after all (Canada).
I'm good right here. Trump's not gonna win. Your secret science has failed you yet again.
While I have, in my more depressed moments, thought that I would not like to live here if Trump were elected, I know I would stay. But I can certainly understand those who would leave. To realize that my fellow Americans could elect someone like that would be extremely disillusioning.
But I'm afraid Lee is right, Petes, that island looks rather bleak without trees. I'm actually kind of fond of them too. :)
Following up on those articles on Erdoğan's outreach to Putin…. It seems that the U.S. government and the Turkish government are prepping for a public dispute. In addition to those articles, there was this piece from Politico.com and an additional piece on PBS's hour long evening news about the increasing tensions between the Obama administration and the Turkish government. The PBS report was likewise sprinkled with adminstration-friendly ‘experts’ on Turkey, and even a supposedly unaffiliated ‘expert’ friendly to the Turkish government to speak for Erdoğan's frustration with Washington.
I think we can deduce from this that the Obama administration has had it with Erdoğan and is now making public complaints that they've already made in private, to no avail. This is not intended to produce a change in Erdoğan's policies--that's been tried in private already, and they've been rebuffed. This is to prepare American citizens and the American press, and especially the talking heads who populate the Sunday morning politics shows, for the chill in relations that's soon to come.
WaPo says we have boots on the ground, special ops only, but boots on the ground nonetheless, in the fight against the Da'esh affiliate in Sirte, Libya.
Today is our summer party for work. We are supposed to be going on a boat cruise on the Mississippi. They are talking rain at some point, so we will see.
I will check out the links later.
I finally found somebody who claims to have actual numbers on the male/female ratio of recent Asian and African migrants to Europe. ‘In Sweden, just 28% of asylum seekers were young men in 2015.’ PewGlobal.Org
Lee: "I finally found somebody who claims to have actual numbers on the male/female ratio of recent Asian and African migrants to Europe. ‘In Sweden, just 28% of asylum seekers were young men in 2015.’ PewGlobal.Org "
Probably because so few young men are recordes as men but instead as "unaccompanied refugee children" here in Sweden. We are an anomaly in Europe since almost every other country does age checks and we take the asylum seekers word when they say they´re 16 or 17.
Here you have our PM with some "children":
https://www.nordfront.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/flyktingbebisar.jpg
Here you have a "child" whose been given a teddy bear:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fw3sg4A7C7M/VqCDO0za-nI/AAAAAAAAFe0/RlzhFE_nJYE/s1600/Ska%25CC%2588rmavbild%2B2016-01-21%2Bkl.%2B07.45.16.png
28% young males is BS, I see that on the streets every day.
"Probably because so few young men are recordes as men but
instead as ‘unaccompanied refugee children’ here in Sweden."
If you have evidence to support that sweeping conclusion, I'd be willing to look at it.
If you mean they claim to be 16 or 17 or 18 or so, then I think you'll find that those folks are classified as ‘young men’ for the purposes of the Pew report. I had similar misgivings about some of their numbers until I looked deeper into the report. You may deny their numbers if you wish, but I think they're talking about ‘young men’, not making the major/minor distinction you are so fixated upon.
If you have evidence to the contrary I'd be willing to look at it.
"28% young males is BS, I see that on the streets every day."
Possible, perhaps even likely, that young female Muslims are disinclined to, or discouraged from, hanging out on the streets. You'll need to account for that possibility before your personal ‘seen on the streets’ experiences qualify as evidence.
Storm here tonight. The power was out for 2 1/2 hours. Just testing internet connection.
Lee: "If you mean they claim to be 16 or 17 or 18 or so, then I think you'll find that those folks are classified as ‘young men’ for the purposes of the Pew report."
No you're wrong. It clearly says:
"Over half (53%) of asylum seekers to the European Union, Norway and Switzerland in 2015 were young adults – those ages 18 to 34."
Then it says later:
"Europe has also seen a spike in the number of unaccompanied minors (children under 18 who arrived in Europe without adult guardians) applying for asylum in recent years. [...] Among all first-time asylum applications in 2015, nearly 7% were from unaccompanied minors, the highest share since data on unaccompanied minors became available in 2008."
So 7% "children". But Sweden took 163.000 "refugees" and of those 35.400 were "children". That's 22%, quite a discrepancy compared to the rest of Europe. And those "children" are virtually ALL young men. As you might imagine young muslim girls do not travel alone nor get sent by their families as an anchor-child. They wouldn't get far. It's for the young men only. And as I said a good portion of them are actually over 18, particularly here in Sweden since we have up until July 31 this year considered age testing to be racist. On July 31 it ceased being racist and became responsible instead.
http://www.migrationsverket.se/Om-Migrationsverket/Nyhetsarkiv/Nyhetsarkiv-2016/2016-01-01-Nastan-163-000-manniskor-sokte-asyl-i-Sverige-2015.html
So add those 22% "children" to the PEW report's existing 28% and you get 50%. Those'd be the males under 34. Males 34-50 will be the second biggest group is my absolute conviction but there I can't provide any proof.
Maybe you better look again.
"The demographic profile of asylum seekers in destination countries
varies considerably. About four-in-ten asylum seekers applying in
Germany (39%) in 2015 were young adult males, about the same level
as asylum seekers to Europe (42%) as a whole. In Hungary, about half
(51%) of asylum seekers were more young adult men. In Sweden, just
28% of asylum seekers were young men in 2015. Meanwhile, young
adult men made up 74% of asylum seekers in Italy, the highest share
of any country in 2015."
(emphasis added)
They have no problem distinguishing adults from children when they're talking about those who are representing as ‘young adult men’ as opposed to children. But, when it comes to Sweden, they're finding a rather low percentage of young men in general. They certainly don't generalize a 7% ratio across the board, and you have no basis for making that generalization yourself.
Okay, I get where you're getting your numbers (had to translate your page before I found them).
Assuming the Google translation I get is correct….
The ratio of underage males has gone up to one fifth from the original one tenth. Let's assume that the entire increase is fraudulent (not a good assumption, but let's go with it anyway). 28% and 10% is still only 38%, not 50%
It seems you're almost certainly getting more females than you believed.
"Among all asylum seekers in 2015, about two-in-ten (19%) were
male minors (0 to 17 years of age), compared with one-in-ten who
were female minors."
(from page 5)
In SWEDEN 28% were "young adult males" according to PEW. I then proved that another 22% were "unaccompanied refugee children". Those are male 16 years plus, many of them 18 years plys and only "children" in name.
28 + 22 = 50.
Not even Lee C sience can credibly contest that. (or maybe it takes something as strange as Lee C sience to find that 28+22<50)
"I then proved that another 22% were ‘unaccompanied refugee
children’. Those are male 16 years plus, many of them 18 years plys
and only ‘children’ in name."
I was (am) under the impression that this category generally consists of 14 to 17 year old males. (page 5.
Be that as it may…. You are assuming that 100% of those ‘unaccompanied refugee children’ are males 16 or over. This is highly unlikely.
In any case, we're still talking about a military age male population running maybe 40% to 50% of the total Swedish immigrant population. (Pretty much the average for immigrants to all of Europe, except that a greater percentage of your immigrants claim to be minors, and apparently get away with it.) That 40% to 50% is way closer to the 28% Pew first reported on their first page than it is to the 90% you've previously represented to us.
Way behind on the comments.
From Lee's Politico article:
Some Turkish media outlets have questioned whether the Woodrow Wilson International Center, a D.C.-based think tank, was involved in the failed coup because its scholars had organized a conference in Turkey that was held the same weekend as the July 15-16 attempt to overthrow Erdogan.
In a blog post Tuesday for the Wall Street Journal, Haleh Esfandiari, a top scholar at the center, dismissed the allegations and compared them to the types of conspiracy theories promoted by longtime U.S. nemesis Iran.
"Paranoia is spreading like a virus in the region," she warned.
Paranoid is that regions middle name.
There is no deep dark secret about our not extraditing the man they are accusing of being behind the coup plot. We are not a dictatorship where one man/woman has the say over everything. To extradite someone there needs to be some kind of hard evidence presented to our courts to legally do so.
"In SWEDEN 28% were "young adult males" according to PEW."
Just for the record…. Pew dropped the adult designation when it came to calculating the percentage of ‘young men’ immigrating to Sweden. They kept that designation for every other country they mentioned; they only dropped it for Sweden. I don't know why they did that. Inadvertent perhaps seems the most likely explanation; however, that's not the only possible explanation.
Erdoğan's apparently feeling brave and strong after his meeting with Putin; he's pretty much framed the extradition of Fethullah Gulen as an ultimatum to Obama.
[Marcus]: "28 + 22 = 50. Not even Lee C sience (sic) can credibly contest that."
Ho ho ho. Think again. I presume you were too bored to notice him refuse to attempt the simplest multiplication when the answer didn't suit him. Fobbing off your addition will be old hat with the amount of practice he's had.
Out in public Petes: Are you stupid enough to go along with the idea that 100% of the ‘unaccompanied refugee children’ reported by the Swedes are males 16 years old or older? (Never mind for the moment that 16 and 17 year olds are still minors, not adults.)
My guess is that what you are is afraid to answer that question is what you are.
@ Lynnette,
Trump's campaign staff (highest level) is apparently preparing for an ‘emergency’ meeting with the Republican National Committee, one which Trump himself will not be attending. Politico.com Subject is apparently gonna be how to remake Trump into something more acceptable to the American public (like that's gonna happen).
Personally, I think they better just get used to the idea that Trump's gonna run for the Presidency as if he really were Donald Trump. Just accept it, get used to it; make the best of it.
Apparently the hacking of the Democrats was wider than first thought.
I get the impression that Donald Trump's ego will never let him admit that he is screwing up. Even his supporters are starting to wonder if he doesn't know when to shut up.
"Apparently the hacking of the Democrats was wider than first thought."
Julian Assange is apparently trying to implicate Hillary Clinton in a murder in a DNC official in a Washington D.C. public park back in July. Supposed to have something to do with Russians not being behind the hack after all. (It's getting high play with Sean Hannity on his three hour radio program this week; probably make it to his TV show fairly soon.)
Hillary Clinton in 2006:
"As for how to stem the tide of illegal immigrants, "A physical structure is obviously important," she said. "A wall in certain areas would be appropriate," as long as it was not a "dumb wall" that could be scaled or tunneled. Advocating "smart fencing," she added, "There is technology that would be in the fence that could spot people coming from 250 or 300 yards away and signal patrol agents who could respond."
She also talked of using drones and infrared cameras and, when asked, agreed that Israel's anti-terror wall, which she has seen, might help guide the U.S."
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/opinions/border-battler-hillary-build-u-s-mexico-fence-article-1.594388
Julian Assange is apparently trying to implicate Hillary Clinton in a murder in a DNC official in a Washington D.C. public park back in July.
You gotta wonder about all of these people who are crawling out of the woodwork with an ax to grind against Hillary Clinton.
Julian Assange isn't exactly someone I would cross the road to listen too, let alone abour something as ridiculous as that.
But the Clinton camp do have a point, on the other hand, about Donald Trump's not releasing his tax returns. She has done so, why doesn't he? The IRS has already said there is no problem with him releasing earlier years. And I also have to wonder at the audit he is now going through. Was it a random audit? Or was there some kind of discrepancy in his return that he filed that the IRS is looking at more closely?
She also talked of using drones and infrared cameras and, when asked, agreed that Israel's anti-terror wall, which she has seen, might help guide the U.S."
We've already got some border control in place that uses cameras, I believe. But there is a difference in building the "Great Wall of China", which is what I get the impression is Trump's position, and having some kind of control, like a fence, or camera, or drone observation.
Still not voting for Trump.
Now I gotta run and do my many Friday tasks and errands.
Later...
Miscellaneous:
[Lynnette]: "But I'm afraid Lee is right, Petes, that island looks rather bleak without trees. I'm actually kind of fond of them too. :)"
Like I said, neolithic folk cut them all down in that part of the country about 5,000 years ago. Over the last thousand years, the Brits came and cut down most of the rest to build navy ships 'n' stuff. We have essentially no indigenous deciduous forests left, only ugly conifer plantations grown as cash crops.
[Lynnette]: "I get the impression that Donald Trump's ego will never let him admit that he is screwing up. Even his supporters are starting to wonder if he doesn't know when to shut up."
Yep. There was an assumption that he would switch to a more broadbased centrist platform after winning the nomination. He clearly hasn't. One begins to suspect he is what he appears ... a moron! ;-)
Pete: "Yep. There was an assumption that he would switch to a more broadbased centrist platform after winning the nomination. He clearly hasn't. One begins to suspect he is what he appears ... a moron! ;-)"
I too think that way. The way he insisted Obama FOUNDED isis and then when sympathetic voices tried to get him to move in the the directcton that Obama's actions facilitated Isis, he blasted on about Obama being the founder of Isis.
He might be just an idiot with a loud mouth and a fat purse. Unfortunately.
Then again I think a sizeable portion of the Trump vote i a spite vote. I read this in a comment section:
Obama is against Trump
The Media is against Trump
The establishment Democrats are against Trump
The establishment Republicans are against Trump
The Pope is against Trump
The UN is against Trump
The EU is against Trump
China is against Trump
Mexico is against Trump
Soros is against Trump
Black Lives Matter is against Trump
MoveOn.Org is against Trump
Koch Bros are against Trump
Ingrate Mexican Illegals are against Trump
Hateful, Violent Liberals are against Trump
All the more reason to SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP!
We have essentially no indigenous deciduous forests left, ...
Plant a tree, save a planet. ;)
One begins to suspect he is what he appears ... a moron! ;-)
One begins to suspect he is what he appears...crazy!
Then again I think a sizeable portion of the Trump vote i a spite vote.
Spite vote...protest vote. Same thing. The thing is, though, acting out of anger has a tendency to back fire on one.
Huh! I see that Sweden has knocked out the US women's soccer team from medal contention. So now I will have to hope that Sweden goes all the way. Better to lose to the gold medal winning team. :)
Lynnette: "We've already got some border control in place that uses cameras, I believe. But there is a difference in building the "Great Wall of China", which is what I get the impression is Trump's position, and having some kind of control, like a fence, or camera, or drone observation."
Yes there's a difference. It's a half assed measure or a serious measure. The way it is today is like if Israel would build their wall but leave gaps in it. Why would they do that? You either build a wall to serve the purpose of a wall or you might as well not build it.
Lynnette: "Huh! I see that Sweden has knocked out the US women's soccer team from medal contention."
That was VERY unexpected. I had the final between the US and Germany more or less decided. The swedish gals hadn't even been playing that well up until now.
You either build a wall to serve the purpose of a wall or you might as well not build it.
I think they did what they could with the funding they had. Unlike Trump I doubt very much that we will get the Mexicans to pay for a wall, even if his reference is merely to an adjustment in trade.
The swedish gals hadn't even been playing that well up until now.
Sometimes people rise to the occasion. The Swedish team did and the US team didn't. Unlike Hope Solo I believe that a really good team that is playing their game can beat anyone. Doesn't matter the playing style of your opponent.
I really do hope the Swedish team goes to at least the final round.
Lynnette: "I think they did what they could with the funding they had. Unlike Trump I doubt very much that we will get the Mexicans to pay for a wall, even if his reference is merely to an adjustment in trade."
I actually never thought the wall was more than a rethoric wall. IF Trump becomes president I still doubt there's gonna be a wall of the kind imagined. Sure, he'll beef up border security and he might even build some sort of wall at some location for propaganda reasons, but a huge wall along the entire distance is unlikely, IMO.
Lynnette:
"Unlike Hope Solo I believe that a really good team that is playing their game can beat anyone. Doesn't matter the playing style of your opponent."
My own opinion is Hope Solo can be excused for saying the swedish team played "cowardly". If you have high hopes and lose you're bound to be dissapointed. But I loved the swedish coach's retort when she heard Solos' remark:
"I don't give a shit, we're going to Rio and she's going home"
Classic.
"…Hope Solo can be excused…"
Forgiven perhaps, after she's repented; first she needs to repent. She got beat on a penalty kick. It was up to her and she blew it. She didn't do herself any good be being a poor sport about it.
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