The gunman posed as a police officer, dressing up in tactical gear and driving a vehicle that could be mistaken as a police vehicle at first glance. Here is a brief overview:
The suspect has expressed anti-abortion views in the past and the list of people found in his vehicle included not just Democratic legislators, but abortion rights supporters. A possible motive for his actions. One thing someone pointed out to me and that is interesting, is the time lag between when police found the Hoffmans at 2am and when they encountered the suspect at the Hortman home at around 3:30am. What was he doing for an hour and a half? The distance between the two homes wasn’t very far at all, certainly it would not take that long to travel.
This day was, as you know, the day for the No King’s protests around the country. While I had heard about the shelter in place order for Champlin and Brooklyn Park, I had no idea at the time what was actually transpiring. I did find it a little odd that I heard about it on CNN while having breakfast. Usually fly over country doesn’t really rate national attention. However, it was revealed that the targets of the shooting were state legislators. I had a few errands to run before the protest that I was attending was supposed to start, so I never thought to check my email, and only found out when I arrived a few minutes before the scheduled start of the protest that it had been canceled due to safety concerns. But there were people there and the person who told me about the cancellation said that they were still going. I never considered not going. I had anticipated this protest for too long. As I walked over to the rally point I saw others carrying signs and joining the group. I do not know how many came, or how many chose to stay away, but the crowd seemed to grow as time went by. While I can’t say how many there were, it was a decent size. And, like the other protest I attended, the cars drove by, honking in support or giving us the finger. I didn’t seem to see as many obvious Trumpers in big pick ups as before. There were some clever signs marking the No Kings event and signs for Melissa and Mark. There was, perhaps, a more somber mood than the earlier protest. But the people there, I think, were determined not to let fear rule them. We all seemed to feel that we needed to be there. This was bigger than a single tragedy. And, I suspect, those who died that day would have wanted us to continue on in our fight for our country’s future. From what I have heard there were still many protests around my state, including at the Capitol, where an estimated 25,000 showed up.
Here is one that was actually set to music. I loved the song.
Update: The suspect in the attacks on our legislators and their spouses, Vance Boelter, was arrested the night of June 15th. Kudos to the great job done by our law enforcement.
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It appears that the motivation behind the Minnesota political murders was an anti-abortion philosophy passionately held by an evangelical fundie Christer type, Vance Luther Boetler, taken into custody last night.
I seem to recall more than one instance of violence attributable to abortion outrage on the part of anti-abortion personalities over the course of the last several years, but usually they went after abortion facilities or Planned Parenthood offices, sometimes doctors, not politicians. This guy had "No Kings" literature among his papers in his faux police car. The overt political partisanship behind his target selection seems to be a fairly new development.
Yes, the "No Kings" flyers were of concern. Was he going to target the protests? Or were they misdirection?
Early Saturday morning his wife and a number of family members were stopped in a car in Onamia, which is about an hours drive north of where the attacks occurred. According to sources they found guns, ammo and passports in the car. Boelter himself was actually down in the Cities, which is more south of the attacks, around that time. He was caught on a bank's security camera withdrawing money. He was arrested in Sibley County, where he owns a home, and that is south of the Cities. So I have to wonder if he wasn't trying some kind of misdirection? But, why go to someplace that would in the course of events be checked, I don't know.
From what I have heard too, he was passionately anti-abortion. The people on his "hit list" were in some way shape or form connected to women's reproductive rights. I have not heard if there were others on the list that did not have that connection.
Off topic: Trump seems to have adopted a new affectation. He's taken to posing for pictures with his head turned away from the camera, sort of a ¾ face presentation. I think he's trying to hide that weird center line down the top of his head where the hair swirls meet going different directions--one straight back, the other forward into an abrupt turn towards his temple. (He also has adopted a nose-in-the-air, "haughty king" type facial expression to go along with the ¾ face presentation.)
It doesn't work as well as he probably hoped. So, I think he'll continue to be casting about for something that works better. This may not last too long. (Should be opportunities for him to test out his new "look" at the G7 meeting in Canada. You can probably pick up a performance before the G7 closes.)
Speaking of Trump, any bets that we end up in a Middle East war sometime soonish?
It seems to have some people in MAGA world actually questioning their Dear Leader.
He also has adopted a nose-in-the-air, "haughty king" type facial expression to go along with the ¾ face presentation.)
Ala a Roman emperor's.
Trump issued some kind of warning to Iranians to evacuate Tehren.
Say what?
"…any bets that we end up in a Middle East war…"?
By some lights we're already in that Middle East war. Trump is issuing orders to evacuate Tehran. We got another aircraft carrier headed to the war zone to provide even further help with the air cover over Israel and targeting over Iran (we already been workin' those angles). And Trump has already been trying to get the Iranians to view a settlement with the United States as an easier road to peace than trying to settle with Netanyahu. (Netanyahu ain't exactly playing along with that effort, although he's careful not to upset Trump with a public dismissal of Trump's try to bigfoot his way into the peace talks.)
And Trump just left the G7 meeting early to devote himself to trying to wiggle into a prominent place in the peace talks that everybody in the region are trying to get organized. (Everybody except Israel and Iran that is.) So much for "America First"; Trump's left any deals on tariffs on the table whilst he trys to get into the reorganization of the oil patch.
Just how far in do we have to get before you figure we're "in"?
Far enough in for the average American who pays no attention to foreign affairs to notice.
Launching one of those bunker busting bombs that Israel so wants us to use might do it. Or perhaps a cyberattack on the US by Iran might catch people's attention.
Meanwhile while we are occupied with using up our missiles China is keeping their power dry.
And people wonder why some people think MAGA isn't very bright.
Any anticipation of getting better "terms" out of the Trump administration must have evaporated for Iran on Monday. Trump posted a single line on his personal "social network". In caps, "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER".
I'd say Trump's wanting to declare the United States already "in" Israel's war on Iran. (The Constitutional requirement that Congress declare war notwithstanding.)
"Far enough in for the average American who pays no
attention to foreign affairs to notice.
"Launching one of those bunker busting bombs that Israel
so wants us to use might do it."
Yeah, that'd probably make the evening news.
Netanyahu's war on Iran has blown back almost all native Israeli action to remove Netanyahu from his position as prime minister. (He firmed up his grasp on the government by trying to destroy Hamas in Gaza after the surprise attack by Hamas on Israel in October of 2023.)
So, now he finds an even larger target, and all talk about removing him from power in Jerusalem and sending him to the defendent's dock in an Israeli court of law have been long forgotten.
So, what's the endgame now for Israel (and now for Trump)? How do they finish this?
Does Trump really think the ayatollahs will give up? The servants of Allah gonna sell Allah out under pressure from the New York real estate magnate; is that what he thinks?
Or does he really think the Iranians will rise up against the ayatollah's while war is on their very doorsteps? (The Israeli rallied 'round Netanyahu when Israel was attacked by Hamas; what if the Iranians behave the same way and rally 'round the ayatollahs?)
What if the ayatollahs don't surrender?
Will Israel, population less than 10 million, really try to occupy and control Iran, population over 90 million?
Or is that gonna be our job?
Or we just gonna leave the place as a center for radical Islam to fester once again?
You assume that Trump actually thinks deeply, or at all. He just wants to grab the mantle of big dog on the block. He has no interest in actually attempting to be a leader who looks out for the interests of his country.
Of course the Iranians will rally around the flag if they think there is an existential threat to their existence. And the Ayatollah's followers will not forgive.
When I suggested earlier that this might be an opportunity for the opposition in Iran I assumed these would be limited strikes that would affect Iran's security forces, weakening them. Silly of me. A strong man will always overreach.
OMG, do I actually agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene on something? She has been urging Trump to stay out.
New threat from Israel:
"Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz [threatened] Iran’s
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and said the military
'has been instructed and knows that in order to achieve all of
its goals, this man absolutely should not continue to exist.'"
AssociatedPress
Trump's grant of "two weeks" to the Iranian Ayatollah has been raising memories of his grant of "two weeks" to Putin, and then another "two weeks", and then another "two weeks", until it finally got laughable, at which point he just pretended he was never serious in the first place about being able to negotiate a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine.
So, how many times will Trump give Iran "two weeks" to make a deal before he figures out they're not gonna make any deals with him, and he lamely wanders off to some other subject? (I'm guessing he gives it at least two extension--six weeks total--before he moves on to something new.)
TACO makes a comeback?
You see he was never really qualified to make serious decisions. He only learned how to con people into thinking he did. Maybe that will be fortunate for the normal people of this world.
Well, looks like Trump made a decision. They bombed 3 nuclear sites in Iran.
There may be repercussions over that.
Yes.
Trump seems inordinately pleased with having taken out Iran's enrichment facilities. The American press seems quite impressed as well.
I'm not sure of the long term advantages to be achieved from wacking 80 year old technology. Could be they'll just build back, maybe deeper this time.
Sunday morning: Time for the MAGA base to demonstrate their sudden change of heart on the subject of staying out of the 'forever war' in the Middle East and display their fealty to Il Duce L'arancione and their obeisance to his decision to conduct a surprise attack against Iran in the middle of peace talks (Anybody remember Pearl Harbor? For that matter, can any of them remember the Constitution--the part about Congress declaring war, not the President?).
Iran said they moved some of the material from that site before the attacks. Does anyone remember wack a mole in Iraq?
Trump apparently notified some members of Congress before the attack which, of course, is not the same as getting their approval. And, of course, those members were all Republicans.
Yes, the ruse of the 2 week waiting period seems to have impressed quite a few people. Indeed, it was clever. However, it doesn't negate whatever the consequences will be. One wonders do they have a clever way of dealing with those?
I am rather curious how we will determine through our intelligence whether or not the attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities were successful when Trump has fired so many workers?
You apparently missed it last night. Trump proclaimed from the podium that "the strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated."
It has been determined; it has been announced. Il Duce Arancione has spoken.
Seems the Iranians have run outta missile launchers and airplanes and are now effectively disarmed for their aerial war against Israel and the United States. So, a ceasefire is in inevitable effect from the Iranian side and now in elective effect from the Israeli side. The Israeli haven't run out of missiles and airplanes, but are running low on targets. (For, instance, they hit Fordow for a second time.)
And… Trump was allowed to make the announcement….
Iran is denying there is a formal ceasefire agreement, however, if Israel stops they will.
Trump thanked the Iranians for their "weak" response. What a putz.
And now Trump is saved from any significant, timely backlash from the isolationist wing of the Trumpkan/Republican Party.
I understand that Trump is going to attend this year's NATO meeting in person. (Starts today I think.) He's going to be there for probably one day of the two day schedule, and most European heads of state are trying to arrange their schedules so's to minimize the risk of finding themselves alone with him. They just don't wanna talk to him, nor stand there a listen while he talks.
I don't blame them! It was hard to listen to his bellicose remarks when he announced the attacks on Iran.
It would seem that one of the European leaders who does want a meeting with Trump is Zelenskyy of Ukraine. They'll be doing some time vis-Ã -vis on Wednesday. (Zelenskyy is in need of another tranche of weaponry and financial support from the United States. He may be allowed to buy some weaponry. He'll take that if it's all he can get.)
Just listening to the asshole in chief speaking at a NATO press conference. Talk about a guy waving a red flag at a bull.
Oh, he let the toady in chief, Rubio, take a question. All he did was praise Trump, no substance.
*sigh*
Now it's Hegseth. I couldn't stand to listen anymore. Talk about a bunch of clowns.
I didn't bother to watch it. I did start to review the tape, but had my fill of him after about two minutes.
So, what was this "red flag at a bull" thing? I was curious enough to start to watch, but I couldn't stick with it. Who was the bull in your metaphor?
Listening to the Pentagon briefing. Much more interesting.
The bull is anyone who may seek revenge for our attacks on Iran.
Those pilots who dropped the bombs must have felt a little like those who dropped the atomic bombs on Japan.
While it wasn't being done to end a war, the targets were very worthy.
Ah, geez, Hegseth is blathering on now. They had to spoil a good press conference.
Huh, as Hegseth says, if initial intelligence reports are usually wrong, how could Trump come out and say within hours of our strike that Iran's nuclear program was "obliterated" and set back "years"?
Trump's had a pretty good day from a Supreme Court that's reinforced my view of them as blatantly partisan.
I just came here to say basically the same thing.
A sad day for our country.
Big turnout in Iran today for the funeral of those who have died in the attacks. Reminds me of 1979.
The Trump administration doesn't consider consequences. It will be of little interest to them that Iran's theocratic government now is getting a 'patriotic' boost in public support as a result of having been attacked again by the United States.
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On the domestic front: The Trumpkans have managed to get their "mega-" budget reconciliation bill to the Senate floor for possible passage by the Senate.
I hold out little hope that Trump's bill will be blocked. The Republicans always roll over for him.
The Republican Party was captured by their hard right wing even before Trump came along. Even if they didn't give Trump all he wanted, the economy they want in the alternative ain't much better.
Well, it looks like you were wrong in the location for the new immigrant concentration camp. It's not in a desert, it's in a swamp and the guards are alligators. Welcome to Florida.
Well, it looks like Lisa Murkowski was instrumental in passing Trump's bill in the Senate. She said she was looking out for her state. You do that, Lisa, even as you just threw everyone else under the bus.
Yes, elected officials have a duty to their constituents, but they also have a duty to the country. Murkowski is just as venal as Trump.
"…it's in a swamp and the guards are alligators. Welcome to
Florida."
As I understand it, it's an abandoned airport that's going to be used as the floor of a tent camp prison out in the middle of that swamp. Plumbing may be still questionable. Ain't like there's a nearby sewer treatment plant. (Florida's problem I guess. Although I do understand that it's made for a peace treaty between Trump and DeSantis.)
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Murkowski is up for reëlection in 2026.
She may be banking on this Senate version not passing the House, giving her another shot at it after the House strips out the Alaska-friendly provisions she managed to extract from Thume.
Or… she may just be the sell out you condemned.
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I've been reading various articles suggesting that Trump's negotiations with America's trading partners aren't going as well as he would like. The general announced deadline for the suspension of Trump's prior, punitive tariffs is the 9th of July, and virtually no country has inked a new trade agreement with Trump's America, as Trump had demanded. (There are a couple, and mind you only a couple, of vague agreements supposedly made but not yet reduced to specific, written language ready for signing.)
American journalists are currently consumed with the 'reconciliation' budget bill.
But, the tariffs are still waiting to bite somebody in the ass.
It seems that some more 'traditional' Republicans in Congress are upset over the Trump administration's freeze on deliveries of promised munitions to Ukraine. Politico I'm not betting on any serious repercussions for Trump though. They'll bitch a little and then move on.
Yes, they usually fall in line. They will do the same with the horrendous bill making its way through the legislature.
They will vote to give the wealthy tax cuts and throw Grandpa and Grandma out if their nursing homes to pay for it. The Republicans are disgusting.
Since the federal government is opting out of much of the responsibility of funding social safety net programs and passing it to the states, perhaps the states should lower any payments they send to the feds by whatever the feds have cut? Seems fair to me.
I read that Elon Musk has indeed gone ahead and begun to try to create a new 'third' political party. He has made the announcement anyway. (Not dwelling on the fact that there are already a handful of minor political parties entitled to be counted first.)
I think he should expect to fail at that venture.
Trump's easy overthrow of all Republican resistance to his economic bill demonstrates that he owns what used to be the Republican Party. There aren't enough angry, potential rebels to matter. (There's grumbling, but they don't rebel against Trump; they're not gonna suddenly dump Trump for Musk.)
I see they have included another little bribe, which will expire after 4 years, for people 65 years or over in the big ugly bill. They have added a bonus deduction of $6,000 to their standard deduction.
A pittance compared to the damage they are doing to our health care system.
Even ignoring the fact that the Republicans are completely destroying the values this country was founded on, they are continuing to kick the can down the road in dealing with the debt. You don't throw away a source of revenue when you are operating in the red.
Biden may have been losing it cognitively, but he was still with it enough to pick intelligent people capable of running a government. Trump is not only losing it cognitively he wasn't able to pick anyone who knows how to run good government. Or he didn't want to.
His legacy may be the unraveling of the United States, because the "Republicans" have no loyalty to country, only to themselves.
The Republicans have long campaigned on an anti-government agenda--anarchists in all but name. Dismantling government, and kneecapping the segments they can't dismantle outright, is one of their primary goals. Then we go back to being ruled by corporations (the heirs to the robber-barons of the 19th Century). That is what they've been working for. It's not accidental that they're getting it done now that they've got control of all three branches of government, Trump in the White House, a Federalist Society judiciary, and a Trumpkan/Republican majority in both houses of Congress.
That's what the American public voted for in 2024. They're getting what they voted for. They may very well like it less than they expected when it gets fully kicked in. That won't be but a year or so, if it takes that long. (Trump is doing his best to shortcut the institutional restraints on their remaking of America; and the Federalist Society majority on the Supreme Court is assisting as best they can. So we'll have to just see how long it takes for the transformation to begin to kick in.)
On a much more positive note, it appears that Ukraine is still fighting the good fight. They destroyed a massive Russian ammo depot that was critical for the Russian offensive in Donbas.
When we feel all hope is lost we only need to look to the Ukrainians to remind us of what standing fast in a fight means.
°Last I looked (this morning that is), Trump's tariffs are supposed to kick in at levels set unilaterally by Trump sometime tomorrow. Supposed to that is…with Trump ya never know. Supposed to be around a hundred "letters" going out informing our trading partners of the levels of tariff they'll be paying for the "privilege", as Trump describes it, of doing business in America. Mostly these letters will be concentrated among the smaller trade partners, those too weak, both politically and economically, to make much difference in America's balance of payments.
The real problem with getting these countries to ink tariff deals with the Trump administration is that nobody IN the Trump administration has the authority to negotiate tariffs. Like most fascist regimes, the Trump administration is ruled top-down, and Trump doesn't have a clue what levels of tariff he should set for each nation individually. And he ain't inclined to study up on the subject. (The written word is notoriously unengaging with him.) And none of his minions have a clue what level of tariff he wants applied against which trading partner, nor do they know how to find out. So, they can't cut deals for him to sign, 'cause they're clueless what he wants. (And he's not interested in negotiating the deals himself. That is 1) work and 2) responsibility; neither of which commend themselves to him.) He seems to think foreign governments will vie with one another to grovel before him--presenting him with ever increasing tariff payments for his administration and personal presents for himself, and it just ain't happenin'.
Tomorrow's a new day. Supposedly it brings a Trump deadline.
Everybody's just waiting to see what it actually brings. Far as anybody can tell, even Trump doesn't know what he wants or what he's gonna do it keep that indecision concealed.
(There are hints that he's gonna extend the tariff grace period to at least the 1st of August; rumor is he's already sent letters granting an extension to a handful of countries.)
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I read about the ammo depot. The Ukrainians have been hitting miscellaneous military targets fairly deep into Russia for a couple of months now.
They seem to have a feel for what's not being defended very well.
It points to the final, fall-back position of Ukraine if they run out of needed military aid. If Ukraine quits fighting, Ukraine quits being.
Putin thinks he's going to outlast Europe and America. But he's not going to outlast Ukraine. For them its fight or die.
Yup, looks like August 1st is the new deadline.
Trump is now making noises like he wants to continue supplying weapons to Ukraine.
We have a saying about the weather in Minnesota, blink and it will change. We could say the same for Trump.
One of Trump's minions was praising Trump (one of their job duties it seems) and he mention Trump's schoolyard bullyboy habit of picking out a single victim and thrashing them unmercifully and repeatedly with no obvious rationale for the pick except his ability to achieve their isolation from the group of onlookers. Making an example of them to terrorize the rest.
It seems our international trading partners have noticed this habit as well and are showing the first stirrings of an organic mob uprising (a unified mass action with no agreed upon leader) against the United States. They're starting to talk among themselves of the moral and possibly practical virtues of refusing to buckle to Trump when picked out for abuse.
That's gonna distress him if that continues.
We have to wonder if the mob gathers itself together before the August 1st deadline gets here.
Will a significant number of potential tariff targets reject Trump's unilateral imposition of tariffs and embargo the United States?
After Trump bitched 'bout Putin stringing him along yesterday, the Russians launched their largest ever combined air assault on Ukraine.
Not a coincidence.
"…and it just ain't happenin'."
Lee C. @ Tuesday, July 08, 2025 5:09 am ↑↑
In consequence…: Trump has begun to claim that whatever level of tariffs he unilaterally sets on a potential trade partner now constitutes "the deal" with that country. He said he was gonna get hundreds of deals; he's got three, none of them finalized. He's not interested in doing the work of negotiating, and foreign governments are increasingly not fawning before him desperate to make "deals" with his administration.
His solution is to redefine what constitutes "a deal". Now it's whatever he dictates. Problem solved so far as Trump is concerned. This may give rise to problems with members of Trump's coalition who have to live and make a living in the real world. But, that'll come later. He's got his problem of the day dealt with. (That problem was those pesky calls for him to produce those hundreds of deals that just weren't happenin'.)
Oh, I think there will be other things that will come back to bite him; Jeffrey Epstein, Texas floods, tariffs if they do take effect, that pesky birthright citizenship that just won't die (a federal judge has again blocked that order nationwide via a class action lawsuit), Hegseth and all of the other incompetent nit-wits he has put in place.
Interesting times we are living in.
Trump seems to be 'easing' his supporters into the notion of tariffs on their goods, or at least trying to…. He's been announcing tariff levels to kick in on the 1st of August by a few a day instead of all at once.
He's accepted the idea that it's gonna cost the American consumer money, and he's now trying to ease the Trumpkins into that.
A cult leader always assumes his followers are sheep.
Trump's got considerable evidence that his supporters can be sold most anything. (Although, the Pam Bondi uprising shows that he's got to feed the conspiracy theorist element among them. He may find, as previous Republican leaders have found since the FoxNews era began, that once he gets 'em wound up they don't necessarily wind down again on command. Rupert Murdoch was somewhat dismayed upon making this discovery, pre-Trump.)
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Trump's put out word that he's gonna make a big, important announcement regarding Russia's war against Ukraine sometime today.
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