Sunday 19 March 2023

Consequences

I know I have been writing a lot about the Russian war on Ukraine. I have been told that there are many people in the world who are actually not that interested. They have more immediate concerns than a war that exists far from their homes. I have also been told that many people are not that upset with the actions of Putin’s Russia. They like the guy. So I was thinking perhaps this would be a good conversation to have now.

Let’s look at those who support Putin. They seem to include Iran, India, China, Syria, North Korea and others who do so more subtly. I would suggest that all of the leaders of these countries have domestic reasons that encourage that support. That may be their similarity to Putin’s mentality or they are getting some really good deals on oil or weapons, naming just two.

Then we have the people in various countries who resent the West in general or the United States in particular. Why would they step up to support them when they deserve what they are getting? After all, didn’t the United States invade Afghanistan and Iraq? Didn’t we overturn their governments, who were doing such a good job? Yes, maybe they had a few little problems, like persecuting various members of their population or curtailing certain freedoms, but at least they picked up the trash and more importantly, were not foreigners. If you knew the red lines you could live just fine. There were many innocent people who suffered in those wars. Then, and for some this is even worse, the West and the United States are just too nosy. They have the nerve to take to task those countries who may engage in certain domestic practices that are detrimental to their citizens health and well being.

There is not much I can say that would change any of those people’s minds. They are either out to gain something or they are mired in, in some cases, a justifiable resentment. They have no incentive or desire to look a little deeper at the consequences of Putin’s actions. But they will be affected eventually, just like everyone else.

What about those, perhaps in my own country, or others who are living in areas not immediately adjacent to or allied with Ukraine? They have their own concerns, such as their economic issues. Why spend all of that money in Ukraine when we could be fixing roads, improving education, dealing with social issues etc.?

Why support Ukraine? Why join with the West in opposing Putin?

To those people I say there are things taking place now, because of this war, that will affect our lives in the future. First, look very closely at how Putin, and Russia, is treating not just the Ukrainians but their own citizens. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? This is not a trick question. There is a reason a lot of refugees choose to flee, for various reasons, to Europe or America. You do not see them fleeing to Russia. You do see a lot of people leaving Russia, however. There is a reason that Russia has kidnapped so many Ukrainian children.

Also, there is a finite amount of money that the West can give to other countries. If it is used in Ukraine it will not be available to other countries who may have enjoyed some of that in the past. Will that improve those people’s economic or health situations?  While the war goes on there will continue to be a strain on resources.  While Europe feels threatened both it and the United States will funnel resources to defend her.  

Second, and this is what will affect even those who support Putin. I know many out there still do not believe in climate change. Perhaps you will if you are one of the many who is, or will be, involved in an extreme drought or flood. Perhaps you will when it starts to affect the food supply chain. This war has really upended the traditional oil supply. You have Europe trying to wean itself off of Russian oil, mothballing pipelines. You now see more ships, some not exactly sea worthy, trekking around the oceans with Russian oil in their holds. Environmental disaster waiting to happen. You had President Biden holding talks with KSA and Venezuela in hopes of their upping their supply to stabilize world markets, despite the fact that both of those countries do not have warm relations with the Biden administration.

And now we have this:

The Willow Project


Yes, this was originally approved in the Trump administration and yes, the Biden administration says there are legal constraints to stopping it. Yes, Biden will break a campaign promise if Willow goes forward. This may or may not have happened anyway. However, this or something like it, will probably need to happen if we want to maintain some independence from foreign oil supplies until we can transition, hopefully, to alternatives to fossil fuels. I know I may sound like a Republican, but times they are a changing. The reason we need to remain independent of foreign oil supplies is that there are less friendly foreign suppliers out there. The reason we need to remain independent of foreign oil suppliers is that there are those who would use oil as a weapon, like Russia.

So we are caught between a rock and a hard place. Climate change will worsen. We are being set back in our chance to fight it because of Putin’s war on Ukraine. This will affect everyone.




61 comments:

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "… if we want to maintain some independence from
      foreign oil supplies…"


Oil from the North Slope of Alaska will not help us "maintain some independence from foreign oil supplies".  We don't have any excess capacity in the oil refineries on the west coast, and nobody's building new refineries out there.  Today's supertankers are too big to fit through the Panama Canal, so there's no way to get that oil to any of the refineries that might theoretically be available on the Gulf Coast or the East Coast (or to get that oil to Europe).  The oil companies are not going to ship it all the way 'round South America when there's willing markets available just to the west, i.e. China, India, et al., where environmental regulations on new refineries will happily be set aside to allow more cheap oil to flow in.

There may be good arguments available for allowing the Willow Project to go forward (I don't think so; I'm still a definite 'no' on that one.)  But, America getting more of her domestic oil needs supplied out of the North Slope ain't one of the good arguments.  That oil won't make it to American consumers.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Hmmm. so then the only thing it may do is undercut Russian oil. I don't know that that is a good enough offset of the effects it may have on the environment or climate change.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "Hmmm. so then the only thing it may do is undercut
      Russian oil."


Won't even do that in time to do Ukraine any actual good.  The lagtime between giving federal approval for test drilling and actually bringing an Arctic oil field into production is too long to expect it to effect Russia's war budget, war'll be long over 'fore that oil ever comes to market.
It might help politically, to keep certain less resolute Western European powers (e.g. Germany, France, Italy, et al.) in the current support-for-Ukraine coalition if they thought that Alaskan North Slope oil would be comin' on market (and keeping prices down) some time in the foreseeable future.  They don't necessarily have to point out to their own populations what that lag time is gonna be.

(What it will do on a shorter timeline is allow the oil companies to claim oil leases on 'estimated reserves' as revealed by the test drilling.  They'll then use those leases and estimated reserves as collateral to get bank loans, so they get some money right away, money right now to distribute to their stockholders as dividends and to corporate officers as mega-bonuses.  If the leases turn out to be worth less than they guess, come some time down the line, they'll cut their loses as best they can, and we'll once again be bailing out the big banks that made the loans, but that judgment day is way down the line.  Long enough for everybody to forget how we got there.)

Remember, the oil companies still ain't buildin' no new refineries in America.  And they ain't gonna start now.  They don't wanna pay for new American refineries.  But they do wanna borrow immediate money against new oil leases as collateral.

But, we digress…  Back to the war in Europe….

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

"It is true that both of our countries share the same, or some similar goals. Xi to Putin

Yeah, we kind of get that.

Perhaps time to rethink where we manufacture things. Or just rethink things.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It sounds like Putin was heckled during that walkabout in Mariupol.

In a video showing Putin meeting local residents, which was shared by Russian state media, a person can be heard yelling in the background: "This is not true, it’s all for show." The president's entourage quickly responds, attempting to locate the heckler. From CNN


     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "Putin was heckled during that walkabout in Mariupol."

That should not have come as a surprise.

By the way…  I had noticed, and had remarked on the fact, that Putin was losing weight late last year (and he could well afford to take a few pounds off; his face had been getting rounder all year).  Well, he's picked that weight right back up again.  He's showin' chubby cheeks again in his recent photo-op in Mariupol (and not the first I'd noticed it).
                           ________________________________

From the last thread…

      "One result of the current Russian ammo shortage is that
      they've brought in more 'hypersonic' missiles, new ships to
      bulk up their Black Sea with more missiles. Makes those
      JDAM kits we're gonna be sending Ukraine even more
      important than they would have been otherwise. More
      MIG-29s to drop 'em from are soon gonna be useful as well."

      Lee C. @ Sat Mar 18, 05:55 am

Well, it appears that the Ukrainians have also figured out how to take those missiles out on land as well.  NYT  Not sure what the Ukrainians were using, but they've been getting new weapons, and they seem to be putting them to good new uses.
(The Kalibr missiles are technically merely supersonic rather than 'hypersonic', but the ability to find 'em and take 'em out while they're still bein' brought in makes that particular distinction irrelevant.)
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And, I've been thinking more about the "foreign oil supplies" issues that you raised.

      "The reason we need to remain independent of foreign oil
      supplies is that there are less friendly foreign suppliers out
      there. The reason we need to remain independent of foreign
      oil suppliers is that there are those who would use oil as a
      weapon, like Russia."

      Main Page

But, I'm thinking that we seriously need to keep on working on how to retire the use of fossil fuels across the board, not just foreign supplies.  It's been said, tongue-in-cheek, that it was one of God's less harmless jokes to put fossil fuels in places where bad people lived and ruled.  (I'd suggest that was more likely the Devil's doin'.)
In any case, the way to solve that particular problem is to outgrow the need for fossil fuels, foreign or domestic, and to share that technology around the world.  We're making some strides along that path, but we got more yet to do.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It looks like the US is speeding up the delivery of the Patriot Missile defense system and also the Abrams tanks, choosing to send the M1-A1 for now.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Not sure what the Ukrainians were using, but they've been getting new weapons, and they seem to be putting them to good new uses.

Yes, word is that the Ukrainians are a quick study.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

But, I'm thinking that we seriously need to keep on working on how to retire the use of fossil fuels across the board, not just foreign supplies.

It does sound like we are running out of time.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...


Xi Jinping's "three day" trip to Moscow appears to lasted only two days.  He arrived on Monday 1:00 pm, Moscow time; it's just barely past noon on Wednesday, Moscow time, and he's already lifted off the runway, on his way back to China, little over three hours ago.
I'm not sure what to make of that, if anything.
                          ________________________________

      "… the US is speeding up the delivery of the Patriot Missile
      defense system and also the Abrams tanks…"


Could be the persistent, recurring rumors about the Russians runnin' outta steam are actually true this time.
May have caught the Biden administration unprepared.  Perhaps they're scramblin' to catch up with developments on the ground and to keep ahead of offensive requirements coming up faster than they'd anticipated.

(Or, maybe I'm being too optimistic here; but, could be….)
                           ________________________________

      "…word is that the Ukrainians are a quick study."

      "When a man knows he is to be hanged...it concentrates
      his mind wonderfully." 

      Samuel Johnson ― 1777

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I'm not sure what to make of that, if anything.

Boredom? Realization that he is standing next to a man who is persona non grata among many of China's clients? Or maybe something came up at home that we don't know about?

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

(Or, maybe I'm being too optimistic here; but, could be….)

We can always hope.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Medvedev has said it will be a declaration of war against Russia if Putin were to be arrested.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Russian general: Sigh... another defeat. So many tanks, APCs and BMPs lost.
Aide: Yes, a great pity, it'll take months to replace them.
General: No, you idiot. I was going to sell them after the war.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...


      "Medvedev has said…"

That decision would not be left to Medvedev.  He's mostly just puffin' headlines for the Russian press to print for consumption in Russia.  Some of that leaks out over the borders.
In any case, one can be certain that Putin confirms his 'diplomatic immunity' with the government of the country he's visiting before he shows up for a visit.  They've come to an agreement on all that before Putin ever flies in.  I'm sure a written guarantee to specifically not honor the ICC warrant is part of the package now.  (Hungary, for instance, Viktor Orbán presiding, has volunteered the information that they will not arrest Putin, should he deign to visit.)

There are many in the Russian 'siloviki' who'd welcome the arrest--they'd like to call it a dumb-ass move on Putin's part, and get on with selecting a younger man to replace him.  Then there are those who'd think such an arrest had to be punished, maybe even war.  Hard to know which faction would win or if a compromise would occur, but it won't be up to Medvedev in any case.  He's just puffin' for the headlines.
(Not that Putin leaves Russia much these past several years anyway--he apparently likes staying near to his long table.  He probably won't even go visit Orbán in Hungary, although he may make a pilgrimage to China to see Xi again.)
                           ________________________________

While we're on the subject of the ICC…  They say they're gonna open an office in Ukraine.  Apparently they've not taken notice of the most recent developments in bomb targeting.  And the Russians do have some smart bombs that actually work as advertised.  I'm sure they'll be willing to spare one of those for a hit on an ICC office in Ukraine.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It looks like Russia is having problems meeting its arms delivery to India.

Russia is unable to honor its arms delivery commitments to India because of the war in Ukraine, the Indian Air Force (IAF) said, placing a potential strain on New Delhi’s relationship with its largest defense supplier as Moscow attempts to ramp up weapons production.

An IAF representative told an Indian parliamentary committee that due to the Ukraine war a “major delivery” from Moscow “is not going to take place.”

The admission, published in a report by India’s lower house of parliament on Tuesday, is the first official confirmation by Indian authorities amid swirling rumors and reports in local media suggesting shortcomings in Russian capacity.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

That decision would not be left to Medvedev.

No. And one would hope that there are still people in Russia who can see beyond the propaganda of Putin and realize just what that would entail.

Unfortunately there are a lot of ordinary Russians who are brainwashed into thinking the West is responsible for Russia's actions and support him. There is a video out there showing Russians saying "I am Putin" in a suggestion that they would stand with him if he were arrested.

While we're on the subject of the ICC… They say they're gonna open an office in Ukraine.

They understand the risks.



Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Unlike those who are acting as proxies for Iran. The drone attack on US forces was a very bad mistake.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "Russia is having problems meeting its arms delivery to India."

Seems to be largely a missile shortage.  Probably India will just havta do without for awhile.  Russia's been converting damn near every missile they've got (every non-ICBM anyway) to surface strike capability, for use against ground targets in Ukraine.  I expect that will continue.
                           ________________________________

      "…there are a lot of ordinary Russians who are brainwashed
      into thinking the West is responsible for Russia's actions…"


These are the same Russians who got seriously pissed when the Ukrainians resisted being slaughtered in their own beds by precision-guided Russian munitions aimed at civilian homes.  These are the same Russians who got murderously pissed when the Ukrainians fought back instead of collapsing in terror after Russia launched an unprovoked attack against Ukraine.
These Russians ain't brainwashed; they ain't that stupid.
They just think the bullshit story about it all being the fault of 'the West' sounds better than the truth sounds.  So they tell the story they think sounds better and they pretend to believe it's the truth.  The actual truth is they thought they had the power to pull it off and now they're pissed on account of that didn't work out for 'em as well as they'd hoped.  We know that, and they know that; they just don't want to admit it in public.

(And they tried out a couple of different story lines before they finally settled on the one they're all gonna pretend to believe going forward.  So, I repeat, they ain't that stupid.)
                           ________________________________

      "The drone attack on US forces was a very bad mistake."

Biden certainly wasted no time in ordering a counter-strike.  And there may even be more hits yet to come.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
Rumors are persisting, and spreading, that the Russian assault on Bakhmut has peaked and fallen back.  They do seem to have actually run out of steam--for real this time.
That might have something to do with the Biden administration seemingly scrambling to get weapons systems into Ukrainian hands here of late.

(And I'm wondering what, if anything, that has to do with the Russians and their allies increasing hostilities on other fronts--Iranian and Iranian-friendly forces takin' more shots at Americans in Syria, and the announcement that Belarus is soon getting tactical nukes, stuff like that.  Putin asking his friends to try to help distract us from up-arming Ukraine maybe?  Gotta hope one of the friends who help ain't gonna be China pouring in ammo for the Russians.)
                           ________________________________

Norway, Denmark, Finland, and Sweden have announced a signed agreement to merge their individual air forces to form a single "joint air command", in effect, a common Air Force among the four nations, to be known (tentatively) as the Nordic Air Command.  They will present this new, four-nation air force to NATO as a unified air force, common to all four nations.  It is intended to be a part of NATO's force, but organized as one unit covering the four nations, instead of individual national contributions to NATO's forces.
Sweden, of course, is still being blocked from NATO membership by Turkey's President, Recep Erdoğan.
This is their response.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

utin asking his friends to try to help distract us from up-arming Ukraine maybe?

You may be right about that. I have read commentary to that effect elsewhere.

Gotta hope one of the friends who help ain't gonna be China pouring in ammo for the Russians.

Yes, I hope that as well.

I have heard that part of that Putin/Xi discussion had to do with encouraging an independent counter monetary option to the dollar. The yuan was their choice. Something we should keep in mind. But China is still exporting more to the US and the EU than to Russia, even if they build pipelines between Russia and China to better move Russian oil. All of this to better assure that Russia will be China's gas station in the future.

Still think they are fiddling while Rome burns. Climate change will throw a spanner into some future plans, I am thinking.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

China spent a lot of money on all of those man made islands in the South China Sea for their military installations. Low lying islands. Might turn out to be a waste of money sooner rather than later.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Rumors are persisting, and spreading, that the Russian assault on Bakhmut has peaked and fallen back. They do seem to have actually run out of steam--for real this time.

I have heard that too. Come spring we will see who has maintained the better supply of men/women and equipment. The Russians have played fast and loose with their manpower for some time. While the Ukrainians have been getting training from our people for not just weapons but medical care. When this war is over Russia may find that what is left for them is a very high medical bill and fewer workers. This despite their efforts at kidnapping Ukrainians.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

This is their response.

Smart. I have been thinking that there should be another allied force that could be used to defend the nations who should be part of NATO. Erdogan can go fly a kite with his blackmail.

Then there is Hungary who has made it clear who they side with, despite their membership in NATO.


     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "I have heard that part of that Putin/Xi discussion had to do
      with encouraging an independent counter monetary option
      to the dollar."


You heard that part right.  But China's been trying to push their own currency (which they like to call the 'Renminbi' in foreign exchange contexts) as an alternative to the dominance of the U.S. dollar for decades now, and they've had very little luck with that project.  Russia doesn't have much choice but to be agreeable right now, but that's for now.  Things might change later, soon as the fighting dies down in Ukraine.

The Chinese have delayed commitment to the proposed second trans-Siberian pipeline.  They're not wanting to get tied to a price floor nor to a guarantee to purchase the new pipeline's output, and Russia needs those to get the financing.  But Russia has no way to pressure the Chinese to agree to either.  So, that's been back-burnered for now.
                           ________________________________

      "Low lying islands."

They can re-build them higher.  The real question they face there is whether those man-made additions can stand up to the increased storm activity.
                           ________________________________

      "… another allied force that could be used to defend the
      nations who should be part of NATO."


With three out of the four of them NATO members, and Sweden in the center, surrounded by the other three, and the only one that doesn't actually border Russia (although their territorial waters butt up against each other):  What they've done is effectively open the back door to NATO for Sweden.  NATO will have to reject the membership of the new "Nordic Air Command" or Sweden is, for all intents and purposes, in NATO.  To Hell with Erdoğan.  They've got 'round his flank and brought Sweden to the back door, at least the Swedish Air Force is effectively in.  (That's unless NATO as a whole puts up a serious objection.)
If Erdoğan doesn't relent, and NATO doesn't object, we can probably expect to see the four of them create a common Coast Guard, or Shore Patrol, or whatever they call it.  And then it's pretty much a done deal, as Sweden and Russia have no land borders.
With any luck Erdoğan will see the writing on the wall and relent (after his upcoming re-election; don't wanna look 'weak' just before going to the polls).

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It looks like Israelis aren't buying Netanyahu's court packing. They are out in force to try to stop his attempt to white wash his corruption charges. He apparently took a leaf out of Trump's book.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

But Russia has no way to pressure the Chinese to agree to either.

They might find that goes for other countries as well going forward.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
I understand that Netanyahu has agreed to 'pause' his plan for the Israeli courts.  My first thought was to wonder if a 'pause' is going to be enough to stop the protests.  He may have to announce an abandonment of that plan instead.  I guess we shall soon see.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

If Erdoğan doesn't relent, and NATO doesn't object, we can probably expect to see the four of them create a common Coast Guard, or Shore Patrol, or whatever they call it. And then it's pretty much a done deal, as Sweden and Russia have no land borders.

With no obligation on the part of Sweden to come to Turkey's defense.

With any luck Erdoğan will see the writing on the wall and relent (after his upcoming re-election; don't wanna look 'weak' just before going to the polls).

The consequences of the earthquake weren't really a good look either.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I was watching a vlog from Russia the other day. The interviewer was born in Russia, but has lived outside of the country for some time. I don't know where off hand, but he spoke with an American accent. Anyway, he went back to his hometown in Russia and interviewed some of the people he grew up with to see how things have changed since the war and sanctions.

The first family was still all together, husband, wife and two daughters with a baby on the way. They are still living as normal with very little change. They are not wealthy but manage to live a relatively comfortable life, although not able to put much into savings.

In the second family the husband was mobilized and is serving in Ukraine. His wife and two sons are doing relatively okay as well. But they worry for their father. The oldest said he would like to go to Ukraine to help him.

The third fellow ran a metals plant. Most of the more sophisticated equipment is Western made. They are running out of spare parts for repairs. But they are still able to get them via a third country. It is just more expensive and takes a little longer. They have lost some contracts with western companies, such as one from Italy. The biggest problem they have is finding skilled workers. They have had workers mobilized to fight in Ukraine.

The last fellow interviewed flips houses. In his case there seems to be a shortage of buyers.

So these people in this one area are not seeing a huge impact from sanctions, yet, according to those interviewed. They are also not acquainted with anyone who has fled Russia.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
The International Olympic Committee has proposed banning from the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris any Russian or Belarusian athletes who 'actively support the war'.  (Translated into plain language, they mean "who noticeably support Russia in the war".)
I think this is gonna prove to be an untenable position.  By implication, any Russian or Belarusian athletes who show up and compete in Paris are assumed to not support Russia's war.  Then they go back to Russia?  And Putin allows that?  No persecution?  (Might work out easier on the Belarusian athletes, but goin' back to Moscow will be problematic for the Russians.)
And the press gonna be hounding them to be more explicit about their position and the implications of competing all the while they're in Paris.  So that's not gonna be comfortable for a lot of them either.

The IOC doesn't wanna publicly back down to European pressure, so they've tried to stop at this intermediate position, but I don't think this is gonna work.
                           ________________________________

      "So these people in this one area are not seeing a huge
      impact from sanctions…."


That goes along with the conventional political wisdom regarding the sanctions' effects.  They've had an impact, but they've not been crippling to Russia.  And they've been especially unremarkable in their impact on civilian consumer goods.  (Of course, nobody wanted to specifically target civilian consumer goods.  That woulda had a bad political look to it with the bleeding heart types and made the adoption of sanctions a much harder sell.  And we are, after all, raggin' on Russia for targeting civilians; wouldn't be a good look if we were also targeting civilians--even if just with sanctions.)

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

From what I gather it was never our intention to impose sanctions on ordinary Russians, although that might have been a byproduct, given that some Western countries have left Russia, causing things to perhaps disappear from shelves.

The goal was to make it more difficult for Putin to prosecute the war. If that has happened then the sanctions are working. What the long term consequences will be, a new alignment with China perhaps, may come back to haunt us. But it is hard to see what we could have done after Russia invaded Ukraine. To continue business as normal would simply not have been right. And would have only encourage Putin in his quest for territory.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

The International Olympic Committee has proposed banning from the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris...

Isn't there some kind of travel ban on Russians traveling to EU countries? Is it not problematic for them to come anyway?

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "…some kind of travel ban…"

Yeah, some kind of travel ban, not a total ban.  The IOC will have negotiated visa rights for Olympic athletes when they granted the Olympic Games to Paris.  Those rights will remain as an exception to the the 'some kind of travel ban'.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Those rights will remain as an exception to the the 'some kind of travel ban'.

Then I guess the IOC has us over a barrel. I am of two minds over this. I feel for the athletes who are not supporting the war but cannot speak out. I also feel for those who will have to compete and live with those Russian and Belarussian athletes who support the war. That is adding insult to injury.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It looks like Russia has snatched another bargaining chip. They have arrested a WSJ reporter who was in Yekaterinburg. Probably in retaliation for the recent arrest of Sergey Vladimirovich Cherkasov.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Soooo our former Dear Leader has been indicted. Couldn't have happened to a more worthy subject. He is already trying to make money off of it.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
Shouldn't come as a surprise to any American alert enough to know they're in Russia, that just being in Russia is an offer to serve as the next victim in a random hostage grab.
                           ________________________________

      "…already trying to make money…"

Trump already is making money off of it.  I'm hoping the defense lawyers consume it all.
I also hope the DA is content to charge the misdemeanors he can maybe prove, and doesn't try to stretch it into a 'campaign finance' felony that's probably kinda 'iffy' at best.
In a case like this it'd be best to go conservative and not reach for headlines just 'cause it's Trump who's the defendant.  Take what's there and don't get greedy for what maybe ain't provable.
There's a special prosecutor who's gettin' some felony charges ready for Trump.  I'd let the special prosecutor have that bit of glory since he's got the clearer case.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Shouldn't come as a surprise to any American alert enough to know they're in Russia, that just being in Russia is an offer to serve as the next victim in a random hostage grab.

You'll get no argument from me there. I've always thought Russia should be a no go for Americans.

Seriously, you listen to some of the Russians interviewed on the street and you wonder what planet they are living on. They can be so completely wrong in their take on the West and America in particular, thinking we are doing what in reality their own government is doing. It would be sad if it weren't scary.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
The Ukrainian defenders at Bakhmut have been described for weeks now as "surrounded on three sides", with only one access route back into the 'city' of Bakhmut, and that access itself flanked along several kilometers (both sides) by Russian and Wagner troops.  The Ukrainians supposedly have been, and are still, in imminent danger of being fully encircled and captured ― supposedly.

Seems the Ukrainian defenders are looking at things a little differently.  They believe they hold a salient position several miles deep into Russian held territory, and that they are soon due to break out and go rampaging behind the enemy lines.  NYT
Customarily it's assumed that an assault force has to be at least three times larger than the forces defending a fortified position (general rule of thumb for journalists to use).  And the assault force can expect to lose three times as many men in the process of overrunning that fortified, defended position.  (The Ukrainians have been claiming a ratio of up to 7× as many dead 'orcs' as Ukrainians lost around Bakhmut; British military intelligence is going with a 5× estimate; American military intelligence on the question isn't being published that I can find.)

Of course, that advantage for the defenders doesn't generally apply if the enemy can get behind the fortified defenses and hit 'em from behind, and the Ukrainians think they're about ready to do that.  They also think the now depleted Russian front will collapse and run away, in a repeat performance of last fall's Ukrainian breakout from Kharkiv which spread across the north until the Ukrainians burned through their necessary supplies (especially ammunition) and had to stop to restock.
And this new counter-offensive yet to come has supposedly been enabled by the Ukrainians playing defense at Bakhmut and killin' off the orcs at a 5× or 7× ratio.

We'll have to watch and wait to see if this second version of the Bakhmut story proves out to be true, but it sure sounds good.

Be awhile 'fore we know fer sure.  But not a long while.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
And then there's still Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, and finally―Crimea….  The Russians are already publicly talkin' 'bout a long war.

And I read that Russia is now trying to barter food for ammunition from the North Koreans.  This suggests a developing cash-flow problem for the Kremlin.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

...until the Ukrainians burned through their necessary supplies (especially ammunition) and had to stop to restock.

Speaking of ammunition. Word is that the Ukrainians have been using tunnels to supply their forces in Bakhmut. Well, at least one way. They do still use roads, driving very fast to limit exposure, but they have backed that up with tunnels.

The Russians found out about it from a captured Ukrainian soldier. I will not speculate as to how they got the information from him. Otherwise they hadn't twigged to it.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

There is another weapon in the Ukrainian arsenal. Cardboard drones. They are apparently impossible to detect. The are also cheap, easily transported (they fold up) and they can still do recon or bombing runs.

This war has shown itself to be a testing ground for all sorts of unique systems.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

This suggests a developing cash-flow problem for the Kremlin.

There was that oligarch who said that Russia will run out of money next year. Forget which one said that. Kind of hard to believe, actually. Not when they can sell to China or India etc. Of course, they will have more expenses going forward...medical bills for soldiers, survivor's pay for family, rebuilding their decimated military...just to name a few.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "Word is that the Ukrainians have been using tunnels to
      supply their forces in Bakhmut."


Have to be tunnels that existed pre-war and that the Russians just didn't know about (probably old mining tunnels, perhaps long abandoned).  There's no way the Ukrainians could have bored new tunnels through there without that activity being spotted.
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      "… and they can still do recon or bombing runs."

I would not have imagined up cardboard aerial bombers.  Some Ukrainian has applied a more productive imagination.  Come to think on it though, why not cardboard bombers?  (Other than rain; there's a fairly strong 'contra-indication' for cardboard bombers right there.  But, it don't always rain in Ukraine.)

I did read that Ukrainians had developed their own anti-tank 'bombs', hand-grenade size or only a little larger, and capable of being carried by and dropped from mini-drones (or, just kamikaze the drone--they're cheap 'nuff).  Add a cheap computer camera and pimply-faced kid to fly the drone into the tank from a laptop hiding a couple miles away, and Russian tanks got troubles.
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I seem to recall that Putin had ordered the capture of the Donbas region, Luhansk and Donetsk, by March.  Well, March has come and gone.  And the Russian winter offensive seems not to have not moved the chains.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
Folks workin' hard on figurin' out who's behind that Russian mil-blogger bombing in St. Petersburg.  The Russians seem to have identified the woman who brought the explosive to the victim's table, but it doesn't seem that identifying the mule has brought the Russians any further insights.
I got no guesses just yet.  I can't see it makes any particular sense for any of the serious players to worry 'nuff 'bout him to make 'em wanna go to the trouble of takin' 'im out.

Although, it'd seem likely to me that Ukrainians would have bigger fish to fry, if they's gonna reach all the way to St. Petersburg.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Although, it'd seem likely to me that Ukrainians would have bigger fish to fry, if they's gonna reach all the way to St. Petersburg.

I would think so too. Why waste their time? But Russia will blame them.

While he did support the war this blogger had been critical of Putin's handling of it. Possibly someone preemptively eliminating possible opposition?

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "…this blogger had been critical of Putin's handling of [the
      war]."

You sure 'bout that?
I've read in several places that he'd been critical the war's lack of successful progress (for Russia), but I've not seen anything that suggested he'd cracked through that last high taboo against being critical of Putin's personal performance.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Ahhh, then perhaps it was Shoigu who ordered the hit.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "…perhaps it was Shoigu who ordered the hit."

The café where he was killed belonged to Prigozhin.  That may be a clue as to where his allegiances lay

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

One of my takeaways from Trump's appearance in court yesterday was that he is slipping up on his hair. It really looked like he had just got out of bed. The bags under his eyes didn't help either. He looked more like a former addict then a former president.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Bad winds in Missouri last night. Maybe I won't complain so much about our lingering winter ( we still have snow).

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

From CNN's Website:

Putin tells US ambassador that Washington's support of Ukraine in 2014 is to blame for current conflict
From CNN staff and Vasco Cotovio

Russian President Vladimir Putin told the new US Ambassador to Moscow, Lynne Tracy, that Washington’s support for the Maidan protesters in 2014 was to blame for the conflict in Ukraine.

"Dear Madam Ambassador, I do not want to disturb the gracious atmosphere of the presentation of credentials and I know that you may not agree with me, but I cannot but say that the use of such instruments by the United States in its foreign policy as support for the so-called 'color revolutions,' support in this regard by the State Department of the coup in Kyiv in 2014, ultimately have led to the current Ukrainian crisis," Putin told Tracy as he accepted her credentials. "[US actions] additionally made a negative impact on the degradation of Russian-American relations."
About the Maidan protests: More than 70 people died during the 2014 protests, which were sparked by former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych’s decision to scrap a trade deal with the European Union and instead turn toward Russia. On the bloodiest day in Kyiv's Maidan, or Independence Square, nearly 50 people died and 100 were injured when, according to protesters, government snipers opened fire on them.

Putin on Wednesday also said relations between Russia and the US were at a low point.

“Relations between Russia and the United States, on which global security and stability directly depend, are in a deep crisis, unfortunately,” Putin said. “It is based on fundamentally different approaches to the formation of the modern world order.”

Putin also places blame on EU: The Russian president also said Wednesday that he regrets the deterioration of EU-Moscow relations and claimed the European Union has "initiated a geopolitical confrontation" with his country.

"The head of the European Union delegation, who is here, probably shares the opinion that relations between this association and Russia have deteriorated greatly in recent years, to our great regret," Putin said during the ceremony in the Kremlin, where he accepted official credentials from 17 foreign ambassadors.

"We see the reason for this in the fact that, leaving aside its main initial mission and the function of developing economic cooperation and integration on the European continent, the EU has initiated a geopolitical confrontation with Russia," he added.

CNN's Katharina Krebs and Radina Gigova contributed reporting to this post.


I agree with the part I highlighted. Our relations with Russia are at a low point and we do disagree with how the world order should be. Russia's attempt to dictate what their neighbors should do and be is not what the world order should be about.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "…he is slipping up on his hair."

I think the balding is an ongoing process.  I noticed awhile back that his swirl was no longer covering very well.
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      "Bad winds in Missouri last night."

That happens in Missouri in the spring.
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Our old Cold Warriors had it wrong.  The fight wasn't about capitalism vs communism.  (Neither the Soviet Union nor Red China were communist for very long, although they both gave lip service to the ideology for much longer.)  It's about democratic vs authoritarian government; that's what it was always about.  And now we have resurgence of authoritarian government worldwide.
The challenge continues.  We have a new Cold War under way.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
I looked at that comment again and it occurred to me that I should have said that we have a renewed Cold War underway, as the battle lines are drawn on the same fronts as the last one.  China and Russia on one side, the United States on the other side; Western Europe trying to give lip service to supporting the United States protection upon which they depend instead of actually preparing to defend themselves, and a large part of the 'Third World' trying to figure out how to exploit the contest for the benefit of their own upper classes.

Not much has changed.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

...s the battle lines are drawn on the same fronts as the last one.

I think that we could add to the battle between democracy and authoritarianism our own internal struggles. I am, of course, referring to the high handed actions of the Tennessee legislature in kicking out two Black elected officials for engaging in peaceful protest.

I am not so sanguine about the super majorities that the Republicans hold in various states. I have much less faith that they will act in the best interests of the people as I do the states with Democratic super majorities.

In the case of Tennessee the Republicans in power have overturned the will of the people, totally nullifying democracy in their state.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

So another instance of leaked classified documents, ala Wiki leaks. In this instance, considering the apparent doctoring that was done, I would look for a Russian asset within our government. Or put simply, a spy.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "I would look for a Russian asset within our government."

Maybe, but I think those documents were shared with both NATO and Ukrainian planners.  The spy could as easily be within either of those two entities.  I think we should keep an open mind on the question.

(And, we may never find out.)

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I don't think all of those documents were shared with foreign partners. I would assume the worst and hope for the best. And when, or if, we find the person/persons responsible they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Because if they are American they are traitors.

     Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
      "I don't think all of those documents were shared with
      foreign partners."


I believe you my be right.  I've seen reviews of the 'new' stuff they've found floating 'round the internet.  Don't look good for the good guys.
I still don't know if I suspect a Russian spy though.  (If the Russians had access to that info they'd be fools to let that be known.
But we may indeed have a traitor inside the circle, perhaps one not working for the Russians, but grinding their own ax.

(I could at least understand what Snowden's bitch was, but this makes no ideological sense.  A left-over Trumpkin just looking to make trouble perhaps?)

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I still don't know if I suspect a Russian spy though.

No, that may not be the case. It looks like the leaked documents were altered after they were leaked. Those were probably altered by Russian bloggers online.

A left-over Trumpkin just looking to make trouble perhaps?

Possibly. Or anyone with an ax to grind. We need to tighten up our security and also the vetting of people that have access to some of these papers. Stupid.