Saturday 20 January 2018

Wearing the Purple

I admit it, I am a fair weather fan. I haven't been watching the Vikings that often over the past few years. But this season is different. Like everyone else in Minnesota I have been drawn in by the rush of having a winning team.

But this isn't about me. It's about a group of guys who never quit. Whether or not they win in Philly they have shown a never give up persistence and teamwork that should be a lesson to others in my country. For them I'm wearing the purple.



Go Vikings!





Update:

The Eagles took the Vikings 38 - 7 in a blowout victory.  My hat's off to the Eagles, they were on their game.  I will be rooting for them in the Super /Bowl.  But I also want to tip my hat to the Vikings for giving their fans an exciting season.  There's always next year...:)


106 comments:

      Lee C.   ―  U.S.A.      said...

 
For those of us whose team got knocked out of the playoffs, this looks a little like gloating.  (But, I'd probably gloat if my team was still in it too.)

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Well, it wasn't meant to look like gloating. We are just a little shell shocked to have come this far, especially winning by a play that did seem miraculous.

I really just wanted to give credit to a team that has worked very hard this season. We have not seen that so much in the past. As I mentioned to people, if you think you deserve to play in the Super Bowl, you have to be able to come back from behind. All of the good teams I have watched in the past, whoever they have been, have been able to do that.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Oh, and that lesson I was talking about wasn't meant for other football teams.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "I really just wanted to give credit to a team that has
      worked very hard this season.
"

Ah, well then, no doubt that's what I'd have been doing too.  Just givin’ the team the credit they're due.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Hmmm...let me guess, you're a Packers fan aren't you?

lol!

Well, we'll see what happens today. As long as both teams play clean I will root for whoever wins to win the Super Bowl.

Petes said...

Even I got to see the Vikings/Saints highlights the next day, and I wouldn't know one end of an American football from the other. That last Keenum throw was poetic, and Diggs twisted like a cat dropped upside down from a balcony to recover it while avoiding the tackle. Awesome (which is not something I often say about sports ;-)

Petes said...

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No prizes for guessing where *I* am ;-) Just watching the sun rise an hour earlier than at home right now. Humans were definitely designed to live south of the 45th parallel. I can feel the SAD melting away ;-)

[Lynnette, from previous]: "It seems as if the European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker is maintaining an offer to the British for them to remain in the EU. There is apparently another article that would allow that to happen. In any case, though, they seem to have come to some kind of agreement that will rule out a hard border between the E.U.'s Republic of Ireland and the U.K.'s Northern Ireland. That at least sounds promising, Petes"

There is no way the Brits are staying in. Juncker and (EU president) Donald a Tusk are just stirring the shit. Both of the main UK parties are pro-Brexit. Even thought the referendum was only advisory, and the margin was tight enough, it would be political suicide for any faction to attempt to renege on leaving. The danger is not from the opposition, nor even from the public (though there would be riots), but from the opposing factions within their own ranks. Both the leading parties are riven down the middle over the Brexit issue, with daggers drawn and at the ready. The main obstacle to the final leave decision is the passage of an amendment to the Brexit bill which allows MPs a meaningful vote on whatever deal is forged with Europe. But it's not at all clear what a rejection of the deal by the Commons would mean. They can't force the EU to renegotiate nor can they delay the leaving date beyond March of next year.

As for the NI border, don't believe anything you hear. That's issue can't be resolved as yet since the post-Brexit trade status of the UK is yet to be decided. A soft border with the UK outside the Common Market is a logical impossibility. No matter what fudges were conjured up to allow talks to progress to the next phase, it's one that's still waiting to bite everyone on the ankles.

Petes said...

Oops. Looks like the Vikings got mangled by the Eagles. You were right to get the gloaty post up while the going was good, Lynnette (just kidding ;-)

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
I've been watching the ‘shutdown’ coverage in the print media and it seems to me that the Democrats are using the wrong tactics and pushing the wrong message.  (Of course, I wasn't in favor of having them fight on this particular hill, but that's another subject entirely.)

The White House has said that there will be no negotiations on the question of the Dreamers until the government is re-funded.
Paul Ryan has said there will be no negotiations on the question of the Dreamers until the government is re-funded.
The spokesman for the House Freedom Caucus (a collection of the most extremist elements in the Republican congressional ranks) has said there will be no negotiations on the question of the Dreamers until the government is re-funded.

I think the Democrats should be pushing that story.  There's nobody to negotiate with.  The Republicans are refusing to open talks; nothin’ for the Democrats to do but wait (or abject surrender, but they don't have to mention that last point).

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
It's been almost overlooked in this country as a result of the shutdown news, but Erdoğan's Turkey has attacked Kurdish enclaves in Syria, areas that were supposedly under ‘our protection’.  American objections have made little difference to Erdoğan.
I'm afraid, as has happened all too often in the past, we will not back up the Kurds when they need us.  The Russian reaction may be a whole different story.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
I forgot to include the link to the NYT story.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
They've supposedly come to a temporary agreement of some sort to reopen the government until the 8th of February.  Trump has scheduled a press conference for later in the day, probably to blast the Democrats or blast the agreement, or both, and maybe claim the credit for it, or maybe all three, but not until after they get an agreement through the Senate and the House.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

That last Keenum throw was poetic, and Diggs twisted like a cat dropped upside down from a balcony to recover it while avoiding the tackle.

While we didn't win the game against the Eagles, if you are a Minnesotan you kind of expect to lose in the end, the Saints game was the one I really was happy to see them win. That is one team that I don't care for. There are exceptions in the player roster, of course.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Just watching the sun rise an hour earlier than at home right now. Humans were definitely designed to live south of the 45th parallel. I can feel the SAD melting away ;-)

I know, that's one thing I don't like about winter, the early sunset.

We had a bit of a snowstorm yesterday, but it is wonderfully sunny today and the streets are melting quite well. It almost feels like March weather. Normally you get those heavy, wet, snows and then melting the next day.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

A soft border with the UK outside the Common Market is a logical impossibility. No matter what fudges were conjured up to allow talks to progress to the next phase, it's one that's still waiting to bite everyone on the ankles.

Perhaps not the only thing?

But, I know what you mean about politicians making everything look nice, when in fact it isn't.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It's been almost overlooked in this country as a result of the shutdown news, but Erdoğan's Turkey has attacked Kurdish enclaves in Syria, areas that were supposedly under ‘our protection’. American objections have made little difference to Erdoğan.

I just saw that the other day too. Our protests were a little fainthearted if you ask me. Yup, I think the Kurds are on their own again.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

They've supposedly come to a temporary agreement of some sort to reopen the government until the 8th of February.

Yup, the Dems caved on the Dreamer thing, settling for some "promise" from McConnell that they'd take up the issue after this was past. Of course, the House is already saying they weren't involved in that deal and won't guarantee anything.

Trump has scheduled a press conference for later in the day, probably to blast the Democrats...

Oh, he's been doing that from day one. Even going so far to have some asinine recorded message when you called the White House stating this is all the Democrat's fault.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "Yup, the Dems caved on the Dreamer thing…"

Indeed.  But, they were losing the PR war on that one.  I'm sympathetic to the Dreamers (and I'm rather more conservative on immigration issues than you are).  And yet we both felt that it was a mistake to work that into the budget battle.  People less sympathetic to the Dreamers were even less tolerant of the Democrats making that a triggering event for the shutdown.
The Democrats have a chance to take back the House, and maybe even a longer shot chance of taking back control of the Senate, in 2018; it'd be a mistake to lose those opportunities along with losing the fight for the Dreamers.
‛Caving’ over the ‛Dreamer thing’ wasn't the mistake.  The mistake was digging in on that battle line in the first place.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has struck down a Republican designed federal congressional district map, for the sin of being too blatantly partisan in violation of ‛the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania’.
I'm not an expert on Constitutional Law, but I do know enough to know that this one will be extremely hard for even a Trump packed Supreme Court to overrule, on account of it's based on the state court interpreting state law instead of federal law.

The Trump Court may have put the North Carolina anti-gerrymandering decision in danger, but they're in a much weaker position on this one.  Perhaps the tide has turned

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

But, they were losing the PR war on that one.

It was, perhaps, more of a strategic retreat. Now they will have the high ground when the House Republicans become the stumbling block for DACA and immigration reform.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

The Trump Court may have put the North Carolina anti-gerrymandering decision in danger, but they're in a much weaker position on this one.

I hope you are right. This Republican Party is not the same one I have voted for in the past. Their agenda is not mine.

Petes said...

Story in local papers here about an Irish illegal being deported from the US. Typical "big bad Trump" angle, not a hint of a suggestion that people who do illegal things should have to face the consequences.

Petes said...

Marcus, I see Swedish house prices are down 7.5% in the last quarter. Seems to be related to inflation going above 2% and people getting spooked by rate rises. If so, the house price index has gone up 70-80% since rates were on the floor in 2010-11. Is it possible all that gain will be given back? When you hear politicians talking about a "soft landing" you know you are in trouble.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      …not a hint of a suggestion…"

Well, that's what ya get for not being Norwegian.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

When you hear politicians talking about a "soft landing" you know you are in trouble.

It's never good to listen to a politician.

Petes said...

"It's never good to listen to a politician."

Especially if it's a politician pretending to be a celebrity economist like Anders Borg. Fortunately he has now departed the scene to go back to being a sleaze bag. I suppose it could serve as a cautionary note about Trump -- you don't get to find out about the real effects of economic policy until there's been time for the dust to settle and the chickens have come home to roost.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

... you don't get to find out about the real effects of economic policy until there's been time for the dust to settle and the chickens have come home to roost.

It's like that saying about the US economy, it's like an aircraft carrier, it doesn't turn on a dime. That's why Trump taking credit for a lot of the good economic news now is rather misleading. Oh, I'm sure there is stock market reaction going on to his de-regulations push. But the good news about the economy is really just the effects of policies put in place by his predecessor.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It was close to 50 degrees F here today. A lot of the snow that was drifted on top of my roof has melted. Perhaps that is the new normal. We get a snowstorm. and it then warms up and melts a good portion of the snowfall, after which it turns cold and freezes everything up again. I don't mind the melting, but I do mined the refreezing. I hate ice.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It appears that Trump was actually trying to fire Mueller, but was only stopped by his White House counsel, who threatened to resign, if he did so. At least that is according to the NYT.

Rosenstein next?

Months after his reported effort to fire special counsel Robert Mueller, President Donald Trump is still fuming over the Russia investigation and has Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in his crosshairs.

The President has been venting about Rosenstein -- who oversees Mueller and the special counsel investigation -- in recent weeks, according to four sources familiar with the situation. At times, Trump even gripes about wanting Rosenstein removed, two of those sources said. One source said the President makes comments like "let's fire him, let's get rid of him" before his advisers convince him it's an ill-fated idea.


Although perhaps Trump has finally figured out that he can't fire everyone and look innocent of any wrongdoing?

Being the chief executive of a country is not the same as being a chief executive of a business.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "Trump taking credit for a lot of the good economic
      news now is rather misleading.
"

Nevertheless, presidents have long taken the credit when the economy does well, whether or not they contributed to it.  Trump's by no means the first.
And, we are now experiencing what amounts to an incredibly robust federal economic ‛stimulus’ package. Deficit spending on a mammoth scale, dwarfing anything Obama managed to get passed when he was trying to turn the economy around.  I question the wisdom of such deficit spending during a time of general prosperity and near full employment, but it can't be denied that this is what they're doing.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
And, just ‛cause I'm curious, have you noticed how weird the Congressional Republicans have been getting here of late?  The constant drip-drip of revelations about Trump appears to be driving them crazy (with Sean Hannity leading the way)

Petes said...

[Lynnette]: "It appears that Trump was actually trying to fire Mueller, but was only stopped by his White House counsel, who threatened to resign, if he did so. At least that is according to the NYT."

Not surprisingly, when questioned on the report at Davos, Trump declared it to be fake news. He got some boos when he mentioned fake news in one of his speeches (though according to some reports the boos were from journalists), but generally he acted more "presidential" and was reasonably well received. He also came close to apologising for the Britain First retweets.

Petes said...

[Lynnette]: "It was close to 50 degrees F here today."

Just got back from 19°C in southern Portugal to 9°C in Ireland. Nevertheless, a rose bush in the garden has put out a long new shoot tipped by an actual blooming rose. In January! My sister in London says her daffodils are all out. The male poplar out back has all its catkins out, though that's become commonplace for January at this stage. I expect to see leaves in the next couple of weeks. I guess there's a reason why our Spring traditionally starts on St. Brigid's Day, February 1st. As the last of the wandering Irish bards, Antoine Ó Raifteirí, wrote:

"Anois teacht an earraigh
beidh an lá ag dul chun síneadh,
Is tar éis na féil Bríde
ardóidh mé mo sheol."


... which renders as:

Now comes the Spring
the day will be lengthening,
and after St. Bridget's Day
I shall raise my sail.


... though it sounds better in Gaelic, and in song.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Yes, it is understood that President's of all kinds take credit where they may. Whether it is deserved, or not.

I question the wisdom of such deficit spending during a time of general prosperity and near full employment, but it can't be denied that this is what they're doing.

You, and a lot of other people.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

The constant drip-drip of revelations about Trump appears to be driving them crazy (with Sean Hannity leading the way)

Or it is just another sign the wheels are coming off the bus.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

...but generally he acted more "presidential" ...

Thank God for small favors.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

... though it sounds better in Gaelic, and in song.

That was beautiful, Petes. But there seemed to be an underlying sadness to the music.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "You, and a lot of other people."

Hard to deny though that the deficit spending does serve to artificially boost the economy.  (Just hard to justify keeping it up when the economy is no longer needing an artificial boost.)  John Maynard Keynes original notion for deficit spending was that governments should be (generally) counter-cyclical with their spending, that is, indulge deficit spending when the economy went soft, pay off the deficits when the economy got better.  Problem is, neither Democrats nor Republicans are ever much inclined to pay off the deficits when the economy gets better.  I count that as an abuse by both parties.

Petes said...

"But there seemed to be an underlying sadness to the music."

A lot of Irish music has a wistful air, even when written in a major key. Caoineadh Cú Chulainn (Cuchulainn's lament) is a classic example -- almost all in major chords, but even without lyrics it's a tear jerker. As usual, the mythological back story is a tragic gore fest :-)

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Syrian Kurds are learning that Russian support isn't much more reliable than American support once Da‛esh is out of the way.

Petes said...

$24m to chill Trump's buns ;-)

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Problem is, neither Democrats nor Republicans are ever much inclined to pay off the deficits when the economy gets better. I count that as an abuse by both parties.

I agree. While I may be more liberal socially, I tend to be more fiscally conservative. That is, I try to live within my means. If I borrow I pay it off.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Steve Wynn (the RNC Finance Chair) has just resigned. There have been numerous sexual allegations lodged against him.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

A lot of Irish music has a wistful air,...

I have noticed that. Perhaps it, and those wild tales, have something to do with Irish history?

Why do I suspect that Kurdish music may also have the same kind of sadness?

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Syrian Kurds are learning that Russian support isn't much more reliable than American support once Da‛esh is out of the way.

Do you really think they believed it would be?

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

$24m to chill Trump's buns ;-)

Nothing is too good for His Orangeness.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Trump took an interview in Davos, Switzerland, with CNBC's Joe Kernen (apparently FoxNews doesn't go to Davos, Switzerland, not even to backstop Trump).

Matthew Yglesias dissects the the interview, and pretty much guts Trump. No hysterics, no real slant (not that I could notice anyway except a standing contempt for Trump which I happen to share and so tend to think is entirely justified).  Just a straight-forward, dispassionate gutting of Trump.   Vox

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

What’s become clear over the past few weeks as immigration has taken center stage, however, is that even in a process that is very much driven by the executive branch, it’s not driven by Donald Trump. Trump has stronger feelings about immigration and a stronger political profile on it than either Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell. But he simply lacks the disposition and intellectual capacity to do the job of president of the United States as it’s conventionally defined. He doesn’t have a handle on the contours of the NAFTA negotiations, the state of the economy, or even “his own” immigration policy.

Yes, I would say "gutting of Trump" is a good description. I also agree with his assessment. If one hadn't noticed by my other comments here since his election...

Lynnette In Minnesota said...
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Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I'd say he's not really up on what it takes to make our economy run efficiently either.

Deep underneath the Hudson River between Manhattan and New Jersey lies a century-old rail tunnel, heavily damaged during Superstorm Sandy, that still carries 200,000 riders per day.
Engineers say the tunnel should be replaced as soon as possible, at a cost of $12.7 billion. In 2015, the Obama administration agreed to supply half the funding for it, and designs are nearly complete. But in December, President Trump's Federal Transit Administration sent a letter to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey declaring the deal "nonexistent."

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
I know Trump is doing us damage.  I keep trying to hope (sometimes against the odds) that we'll recover from those pieces of damage I can identify as we go along….

I just hope that an occasional slaughter doesn't happen to pop up as one the passing pieces of damage.

Marcus said...

Pete yeah the housing bubble in Sweden is about to pop. But me having zero debt and chilin in Bangkok at the moment i dgaf. Burn this bitch down, it Will only benefit My chosen politics anyways.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
It would appear that FoxNews has discovered that the rest of us think they've gone a bit crazy over there and have decided to respond with a true Trumpism….

      "Not a puppet; not a puppet; you're the puppet!"

Remember that one?  Fox has decided to make the claim that it's actually CNN that's gone nuts.  FoxNews.Com

Petes said...

Marcus, I see your Swedish immigration issues featured on zerohedge on Thursday. Even given that he's prone to a certain excitability, it's pretty scary reading.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
FoxNews.Com

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Pete yeah the housing bubble in Sweden is about to pop.

I was just reading an article this morning about the state of the world economy. One of the reasons our stock market is stilling riding so high, or so they say, is because the world economy seems to be performing well and doing so together.

So, while Sweden isn't a large country, it will have some impact on this if its housing market tanks. At least I would think, anyway. Wasn't that the case the last time this happened?

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney had to explain to Acosta that the reason the government shutdown was the fault of Democrats is because of basic math. The GOP has 51 senators and, Mulvaney told Acosta, “you know as well as anybody that it takes 60 votes in the Senate to pass appropriations bill, right?”

ROFL!

I would like to ask Mr Mulvaney if he knows why the people who set up our government did so in such a way as to try to encourage compromise? I would ask him why one party feels they have to force an issue instead of simply discussing and coming to an agreement with the majority party? Perhaps it is because the majority party is too busy forcing its agenda down everyone's throats to listen? Hmmmm?

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Gotta kinda wonder how that managed to also escape the notice of FoxNews pundits.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Even given that he's prone to a certain excitability, it's pretty scary reading.

I'll say.

I went trolling YouTube for current events in Sweden and found this among others.

Trump's decision on Israel isn't popular there either.

I am starting to think that Marcus is right when he says things are not looking good in Malmo. That kind of demonstration of hate doesn't bode well.

Marcus said...

Pretty scaring, Pete? You would have had to be a complete moron not to anticipate this development. But maybe you are the sort that thinks inviting people from chaos countries Will not inevitably bring chaos?

Anywho, I now anticipate the backlash as our economy tanks. Then we'll see how doogoody the libs actually are, when it's their livelihood and their kids security on the line.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Time to kick Turkey out of NATO, by Michael J. Totten  I think I disagree with Totten more often than I agree.  This is an exception.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Anywho, I now anticipate the backlash as our economy tanks.

Despite our disagreements at times, Marcus, I do hope that you remain safe.

For any country to survive and prosper there needs to be law and order. It appears that this has broken down in some areas. Don't get me wrong, we see it here as well in some places.

It is critical for government to work for a common good.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I will have to read that a little later, Lee, I'm running up a bit of a deadline here.

But...
Time to kick Turkey out of NATO,...

I tend to agree with this as well.

But then I have some sympathy for the Kurds and very little for Russia.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Back in the summer Congress passed a set of sanctions against the Russians (veto-proof majorities in both chambers) for meddling in our last presidential elections.  Those sanctions were to be implemented by the Trump administration no later than today.

The Trump administration announced this morning that it ain't gonna happen.  WashingtonPost

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "Over the past few decades America has, willy-nilly,
      conducted a similar experiment. About 500 counties,
      mostly in metro areas, have embraced diversity —
      attracting immigrants and supporting candidates who
      favor immigration. About 2,600 counties, mostly in
      rural areas, have not attracted immigrants, and they
      tend to elect candidates who oppose immigration and
      diversity.
      "The results are just as clear as in the German case.
      Between 2014 and 2016 the counties that embrace
      diversity accounted for 72 percent of the nation’s
      increased economic output and two-thirds of the new
      jobs. The approximately 85 percent of counties that
      support restrictionists like Donald Trump accounted for
      a measly 28 percent of the growth.
      "Republicans’ problem is that since George W. Bush
      left town they’ve become the East Germans of the 21st
      Century. They have embraced a cultural model that
      produces low growth and low dynamism. No wonder
      they want to erect a wall.
"
      David Brooks writing in NewYorkTimes

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
@ Lynnette,

For the first time in a long time, I have no plans to watch the State of the Union Address.  It's not that I'm not interested in the State of the Union, but what Trump says tonight tells us nothing about what Trump's going to do tomorrow.  Somebody'll pull the highlights together later in a shorter, readable format, and I'll be able to go over that in considerably less time than I'd waste on listening to Trump.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Trump's lawyers have announced, during the State of the Union speech, that they do not believe they'll allow Mueller a chance to question Trump.  Trump will not be voluntarily talk with Mueller's investigators (in spite of all their previous talk about coöperation).

This is probably more important than anything Trump himself might say tonight.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "…will not be voluntarily talk…"

Hmmmm, something seems wrong with that syntax.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

For the first time in a long time, I have no plans to watch the State of the Union Address.

Then you missed something. No, I'm not talking about Trump's speech. Like you I wasn't listening. I had the TV on, but was kind of reading/dozing. However, I did wake up when the Democratic speaker gave their response. Usually I don't really listen to that either, but this one I did. They chose Joe Kennedy III to give the response, and the only thing I could think of was...wow. He's young, but he can really give a speech. My mom actually spoke what I was thinking...there's your next President. Well, I don't know if that's in the cards, but he shows real promise.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "Then you missed something."

Well, if it's that good I'll get around to discovering it on Youtube. You have made me learn to watch things on Youtube.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Early morning news is that it was a long speech, hour and twenty minutes, and he managed to aviod saying ‘no collusion’ for the entire time.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
And, no Trumptweets this morning either.  General Kelly and the crew been working hard to keep him looking normal these past twelve hours.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
@ Lynnette,

I presume you've already noticed that the Trump administration blindsided the government of Puerto Rico by suspending the delivery of emergency food and water and then notifying the Puerto Ricans of that decision after the fact. So, I won't belabor that point.
However, it does occur to me that this is likely place Florida even further out of Republican reach in future elections.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

However, it does occur to me that this is likely place Florida even further out of Republican reach in future elections.

That might very well be in the cards. It certainly gives the Democrats more ammunition for the mid-term elections.

Trump has just, again, made himself and his administration look callus and self-serving.

Petes said...

Trump's SOTU address was pretty much the same as we got from Obama. Both of them have annoying habits of speech. Both of them blathered about how great things were on their watch. There were a few differences. Trump said he was going to keep Gitmo open. Obama said he was going to close it, but didn't. The media mostly scoffed at Trump while they fawned over Obama. Most people didn't even know that the SOTU is followed by a response speech from the opposition. They do now, as almost every news org covered Joe Kennedy's response. The Clinton dynasty couldn't do it for the Dems so why not get excited about a resurgence of the Kennedy clan -- the only problem is that Joe sounds like the classic elitist rich kid groomed for politics. Stint in the Peace Corps, check ... successful lawyer, check ... already vastly wealthy in his thirties, check. More to the point, he was a skin-crawlin' bullshitter. I honestly think the Dems will need to come up with better.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "Trump's SOTU address was pretty much the same as
      we got from Obama.
"

There were several analyses that I read (from folks to whom I'd give some credence) which observed that Trump's speech could be seen as pretty much the same as Obama's State of the Unions, or Dubya's.  It stuck to the standard formula.  Not surprisingly, sticking to the standard formula produces predictable, vanilla and formulaic results.

Two differences between Trump and his predecessors:  First difference is that Trump gets graded on a curve and his side is all atwitter that he managed to read off a teleprompter once again without going into Trump mode.  Second difference is whatever he said last night has absolutely nothing to do with what comes out of him next (unless by accident and coincidence). 

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
I guess a third difference is that several true whoppers and a couple of racist dog whistle lines barely raised an eyebrow; after all, this is Trump we're discussing here.  (I'm pretty sure neither Obama nor Dubya would have managed to draw praise from notorious Klansman David Duke and neo-Nazi/White Supremacist Richard Spencer.)

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Looking at today's news (damn little of it devoted to Trump's SOTU speech).  It's beginning to look like the reason for the increased urgency with which the Congressional Republicans (and the right-winger media) are attacking the FBI and the Special Prosecutor has quite a lot to do with the fact that Mueller is getting closer and closer to Trump his own self.  The closer he gets to the full story, the closer he gets to Trump, and the more dramatic the Congressional Republicans' efforts to discredit the investigation.

I kinda wonder how much they already know and are hoping to keep covered up.

Petes said...

The Dems who are swooning over the prospect of an impeachment for Russian collusion are the self same types as the swivel-eyed Rep loons who hoped Obama would be shown up for a Muslim fake-American. It's batshit crazy.

Marcus said...

Down in Koh Yao Noi snorkelling now. Will try to set up some serious scuba diving but then we'll have to bring in a diver from Phuket, we'll see.

Appears theres a dokument coming implicating the Dems and the Feds both. Basically it was a conspiracy to hoax a conspiracy about Russia. Will be interesting to follow.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Very few Democrats are expecting to see an impeachment attempt made over ‛Russian collusion’.  That happens to not be illegal (unless, of course, there were campaign contributions by the Russians, which would be illegal--and there is that rumor out there regarding the participation by the NRA, but so far that's just a rumor).  Trump's serious exposure is on a potential Obstruction of Justice charge.

Petes said...

Trump sticking his foot in it already today. Claims he had the biggest audience for the SOTU ever, when Obama, Bush and Clinton all had bigger. Sean Spicer got interviewed about it on BBC and was quite entertaining -- he's relaxed a lot since his press secretary days. However, Trump's comments about the Dems being po-faced intransigents during the SOTU address were apposite. I reckon they've lost the moral high ground forever on the subject of Republican "wreckers".

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...


      "I reckon they've lost the moral high ground forever
      on the subject of Republican 'wreckers'.
"

I reckon if you had an actual point to make here instead of an imaginary one then you'd have managed to make sense instead of make babble.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

The Clinton dynasty couldn't do it for the Dems so why not get excited about a resurgence of the Kennedy clan --

Word on the media circuit is that he was the only one they could think of that wasn't thinking about running for Prez in 2020, and therefore was a safe choice to not seem to be favoring someone.

...the only problem is that Joe sounds like the classic elitist rich kid groomed for politics. Stint in the Peace Corps, check ... successful lawyer, check ... already vastly wealthy in his thirties, check. More to the point, he was a skin-crawlin' bullshitter.

Or more to the point he could actually string two sentences together intelligently and not sound as if he was a self-serving bullshitter. But then some people judge by actions, anyway, and not what a politician says. I looked up some of Joe's speeches in Congress and noticed that he tended to speak up for people like those who are covered under DACA. At least he appeared to remember where a strength of ours lays. So I won't hold his name against him.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

The closer he gets to the full story, the closer he gets to Trump, and the more dramatic the Congressional Republicans' efforts to discredit the investigation.

That would appear to be so. It seems that we are plagued with "Weasels and liars".

The only question is will enough American voters see through their "bullshit"? I will excuse any foreign commentators their naivete. But Americans should know better.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

The Dems who are swooning over the prospect of an impeachment for Russian collusion...

I don't know about others, but I will say I'm looking for impeachment over the sad, sad state of his hair. It definitely has a fake air about it. It's down right criminal.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "The only question is will enough American voters see
      through their 'bullshit'?
"

I  think so, and I think (and hope) I'm not just being optimistic here.
It appears to me that the defense is aimed at maintaining their hold on the dedicated Trumpkins (and the Petes types, in spite of his constant assertions that he's not really a dedicated Trumpkin, it only coincidentally looks that way).  They've given up on turning this around.
I think they're just hoping to survive the mid-terms with a large enough contingent in the Senate to make certain that an impeachment never succeeds.  It's looking like the Republicans have decided to go all in on a loser here--not just McCarthy, as Comey has noted, but Nixon--not a lot of schools or streets named after Nixon either.
I think they've given up on saving the Republican Party from Trump; now it's just time to delay the reckoning as long as possible so's to be able to grab as much as as can be grabbed on the way out.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Sean Spicer got interviewed about it on BBC and was quite entertaining -- he's relaxed a lot since his press secretary days.

I can imagine...

Wonder when his book is coming out...

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I think they've given up on saving the Republican Party from Trump; now it's just time to delay the reckoning as long as possible so's to be able to grab as much as as can be grabbed on the way out.

Well, looking at their behavior I can't believe I ever voted Republican.

But I do hope that we still end up with some kind of choice after all the dust has settled. While I don't agree with a lot of this Republican Party's agenda, I still want a counterweight to Democratic Party ideas. I don't always agree with some of those either.

But I am getting ahead of myself. Right now it is about trying to put a stop to the ill-informed, and detrimental to our country, ideas of Trump and his ilk.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Nuisance snow, that's what we are getting. Every other day, or the last time twice in one day, we are getting an inch or two. Now we are in the deep freeze again. Just in time for the Super Bowl party. Welcome to Minnesota! lol!

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "I still want a counterweight to Democratic Party ideas."

I don't think that'll be a problem, long term.  There'll be enough Republicans abandon the new Trump party to put up a fight with the left wing of the Democratic Party over where that goes.  After the Republican Party finishes it's schism/reorganization there'll be a reorganization of the Democratic Party to go along with it.  I expect that they'll spin off their left-wingers (Bernie Sanders still hasn't joined the Democratic Party), but the really important short-term fight will be with the right-wingers who're not going to quit being right-wingers.
They'll abandon their allegiance to democracy before they'll abandon their anger and racisms.  Fortunately, I'm fairly sure they're riding a loser down to the tubes there.  Fascism has raised it's head in America before; it's never again gotten strong enough to go to war since the days of the Civil War.  It's not strong enough now.  (They lost that one once, badly; they won't try that again, and they got no chance of winning at the ballot box, so they're on their last legs and they know it.  That's why they're so pissed.  Trump was a fluke and they know it.  And that's why they're grabbing for all they can grab while there's still a chance to grab.)

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Here's a thought…

The Republicans haven't figured out how to fight this one, but…

The tax cuts they granted the middle class expire in a few years.  The ones they granted the .01% do not (that's the plan anyway).
But, when the time comes for the taxes on the middle class to go back up, the Trumpkin Party will no longer be in power.  Just too damned easy to see the fix--the Democrats switch the hit from the middle class back to the .01%, and the Masters of the Universe learn to curse the day they thought of that idea of bumping the middle class taxes back up; they their advantages loose from the bump up they expected the middle class to suffer.  It's gonna come back and probably bite ‛em in the ass before it's over.

Think it through.  I think they did not.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Fix that sentence; should read as:

"…they cut their advantages loose from the bump up they expected the middle class to suffer…"

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Kurt Anderson, writing in Slate reminds us that the Republican Party has a history of indulging in sundry craziness that runs back way past Joe McCarthy.  We have survived.  We will survive it again.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Beginning to look like Nunes' ‘memo’ plopped.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Beginning to look like Nunes' ‘memo’ plopped.

Even some Republicans weren't too impressed with that move. McCain seemed to think it was just another gift to Putin.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
And Marcus had such high hopes for it….  (Marcus @ Thu Feb 01, 12:52:00 pm ↑↑)

Petes said...


[Lynnette]: "I don't know about others, but I will say I'm looking for impeachment over the sad, sad state of his hair."

There are a few things everyone can agree on! :-)

(Maybe he has a few Russians hiding under there... the resident troll probably thinks so ;-)

[Lynnette]: "Wonder when his book is coming out..."

In his shameless plug on the Beeb interview he said it was available for pre-order on Amazon. I hope he remembers to give a chunk of the royalties to the person who made him famous ... Donald Tr.. er, Melissa McCarthy. (Actually, he did acknowledge her in the interview).

Petes said...

[Lynnette]: "Nuisance snow, that's what we are getting."

This is the time of year I get to gloat. Spring is definitely showing signs of springing. The last couple of weeks has seen some snow flurries north of here, but even without Brexit the Northern Irish border is like a customs post for snow, which rarely gets through. Birds are starting to build nests. The grass growth is a little more perceptible (it never really stops altogether).

Your turn to gloat will be June, when you have something resembling actual summer ... whereas here it probably won't be that much different from today ;-)

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
Continued reviews of the Nunes' ‘memo’ remain unimpressive.  It appears one serious mistake made by the Trump administration and their apologists among the House Republicans was to release the ‛memo’ on a Friday.

Sean Hannity doesn't work weekends.

Marcus said...

Because the REAL truth is as we all know that Trump was engaged in urine sex where russian hookers pissed on him in the bed the Obamas previously slept in. Thatd be the so called Pissgate dossier that the Clinton team actually fed the FEDS and they went with.

Now that sane folks start to question why this insanity took place THEY are the conspiracy theorists? Really?

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.     said...

 
      "…the Clinton team actually fed the FEDS…"

One thing we are certain of is that didn't happen.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

More snow...*sigh* and nary a sign of anything green here..unless it is a loose Eagles fan.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Maybe he has a few Russians hiding under there...

*whispers softly*

There could be anything hiding under there. Except, of course, common sense.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

It appears one serious mistake made by the Trump administration and their apologists among the House Republicans was to release the ‛memo’ on a Friday.

Sometimes timing can be everything.

Of course, they did wait until after people have gotten their new paychecks, which have those brib...er...tax cuts for everyone. For now anyway.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Snowing again...oh, to shovel or not to shovel...that is the question...